Doctors suck and I don’t trust them

There’s an old joke about a guy going to his doctor to complain about pain in one of his arms. He demonstrates his doctor’s problem by lifting his arm above his head and twisting it a certain way. He says, “Doc, it hurts when I do this.” The man’s doctor looks at his patient and tells him, “Then stop doing that.”

It seems pretty obvious, right?

Well, maybe not. When I was laid off from my job as an electronics technician this past September, it changed my life in many ways. Not all the changes were negative. Some were quite positive. One of these positive changes was that psoriasis I’ve had on my hands for years is now almost completely gone. My right hand is completely psoriasis free. My left hand currently only has one tiny spot of psoriasis that I can manage completely by putting a piece of cloth athletic tape on it.

It’s become clear that working every day with my hands contributed greatly to my problems with psoriasis.  Working with my hands didn’t cause my psoriasis. That’s not the way it works.  Psoriasis is caused by my autoimmune system causing new skin cells to grow where they are not needed. In my case, it’s the palms of my hands and my fingers.

Why then didn’t any of the doctors I’ve seen for my psoriasis ever tell me to find a job that didn’t require me to work with my hands? Seriously, why?

Instead of telling me that working with my hands was possibly exacerbating my condition, they prescribed a plethora of expensive, toxic drugs, some capable of causing nasty side-effects. Some of the documented possible side-effects were even life-threatening. One of these drugs affected my autoimmune system in such a way that it landed me in the emergency room with pneumonia.

What was even worse is that most of these drugs did nothing for my psoriasis. None of them worked long term.

My hands feel great right now. They don’t hurt. I have full movement. There are no infected fissures or cracks on my hands. My life is good. Too bad none of the doctors that treated me for my psoriasis can take any credit for my psoriasis going into remission. In retrospect, they only wasted my time and money.

I’m now left with feeling as though every doctor I’ve seen in the past six or seven years is an incompetent quack. That’s how long I was suffering from psoriasis. Not one of these doctors ever told me that working with my hands made my psoriasis worse. I even asked if I should find a different line of work, something that doesn’t require me to work with my hands. I was always told that psoriasis was an autoimmune system disease and wasn’t caused by anything I was doing.

It will be a long time before I ever trust a doctor again.

Update

I wrote this nearly two years ago, and I’ve since changed my mind about all doctors. Not all doctors are incompetent jackwagons. I’m now lucky to have a great doctor, by far the best I’ve ever had. If you live in the Hagerstown area and need a doctor that doesn’t suck, send me an email, and give you their info.

86 thoughts on “Doctors suck and I don’t trust them”

  1. My only thought, being in the medical field, is that there never has been shown to be a relationship between an autoimmune disorder (I have reheumatoid arthritis) and its severity being impacted by the use of the parts of the body affected by the dsease. For instance, with RA, not using the affected joints can actually lead to further deterioration.
    My second comment would be that, suppose one of those doctors told you it woudl be beneficial to give up your job — you did, then found that the psoriasis on your hands got no better. By your reasoning, that doc would be a quack too. Though they often think they are, docs are NOT God, and can’t be omniscient in knowing what may miraculously work for an individual patient! But I am certainly glad to hear that you are having such relief.

    1. How about being threatened by the psychiatric profession who use the emotion of fear so as to control people they certainly suck I was a victim of psychiatric abuse in australia

      1. The best mafia in the world is the medical profession oppressive nasty pompous pedants no 1imbeciles narrow minded prejudiced pack of bastards.the profession does not tolerate dissent or new ideas all in the profession must toe the line welcome to the real mafia.as far as the psychiatric profession is concerned this is the pure manifestation of evil and Satan on earth.I have doctors try to ruin my life wreck it yeah sure they profess to help people the only thing they help with is to wreck your life

        1. I once received a letter from a psychiatrist in Australia that if I send any letters of complaint to the hospital he would give the letters to the police UNoped. Which means that people are not allowed to lodge complaints about hospitals in Australia as their letters will be handed upon to the police.yes folks unopened.how about that for intimidation doctors and nurses suck together they are weak nasty characters hiding behind the police force to intimidate people.on their own they couldn’t fight their way through a paperbag.doctors and nurses stop intimidating people.I hate doctors and nurses

  2. @Cathy I think it’s different when it’s the skin. I’ve been doing research online and I’ve been reading about the “Koebner phenomenon”. From PsoriasisNet:

    The “Koebner phenomenon” and is named after Dr. Koebner who in the 19th century observed that a patient developed new lesions in areas where his horse bit him. This relationship between skin injury and developing new psoriatic lesions has been observed in many patients.

    Research shows that about 50% of people with psoriasis experience the Koebner phenomenon — developing a psoriatic lesion at the site of a skin injury or in the same place as another skin condition. About 10% of psoriasis patients develop a new psoriatic lesion each time the skin is injured. The likelihood of developing the Koebner phenomenon may increase when psoriasis lesions are already present.

    Not once did any of doctors who treated me tell me about the Koebner phenomenon or how working with my hands was making my condition worse.

    1. @Cathy, I’m in the medical field too, and I can understand what you’re saying…but I have to DISAGREE. As a doctor, you need to inform your patients, and most doctors are googling things and are not aware. I’ve had a condition that I’ve been working with, and I order all of my tests from my doctor, and feel like I can take care of her patients that have my condition better than she can with her MD Degree.

  3. @Rick: Wow! From what you’ve researched there, it certainly does make sense. One would think that dermatologists, in particular, would know about or keep up with such things, but I guess this is obviously not always the case. I’m guessing that a non-specialist would probably have no reason to know about this, but someone specializing in skin matters ought to! It just reinforces that in this day and age of “speed ’em through” medicine, a patient really has to be a strong advocate for themselves. Sad, but true. Again, I’m really glad this has turned out well for you, as I remember photos of your hands, and they looked awfully painful.

  4. Here’s a question: how much money would an insurance company and a drug company and pharmacy have made off of you if the doctor had just told you to do something mundane and simple, like changing jobs? It’s kinda like being told you have colon cancer when you really have celiac disease……..the only companies who make money off of a disease like that are health food stores!

  5. Googling “Doctors suck” made me stumble upon this. I, too, have had numerous terrible experiences with doctors. Stories like this are far too common, but until it actually happens to someone personally, most people are just unwilling to give up their naive idealistic world view of doctors being some kind of saints who just want to save lives. Truth is, most doctors don’t care. Just like every other profession, they care about getting paid as much as possible to do as little work as possible. They get paid for each time they see a patient, so they’ll send you away without addressing all your problems if at all possible. They get paid for writing prescriptions, so they’d rather make you try drugs that have only a small chance of working than advise you of other alternatives. And most importantly, they really have no interest in the well-being of their patients. Unless the patient is wealthy and influential and threatens to sue.

  6. From personal experience and from what I’ve heard from friends and family I can honestly say that doctors SUCK. When your are sick you realize it’s not money or power the most important thing in life, it’s your health. So why does it cost so much to see a doctor? Or buy a medicine? I know people cant work for free, but when you equate what these doctors or medicines do for you, they deserve nothing. There is no quality control in the health business, so its common to see these witch doctors make a wrong diagnosis or treatment, and when they finally figure it out is because it is too obvious and late to do something about it. There is no LOVE for the patient. There is no INTEREST in finding out what’s wrong. Most of the time they take a quick snotty look at you for 2 seconds and say is stress related, prescribe pills that make you stoned and charge you hundreds of dollars for a 5 minute consultation. I have many stories, hear this one out… I once went to a doctor because I had been experiencing recurrent Vertigo for a couple of months( I was working out, eating right, no smoking or stress either, so whats wrong? ), after I told him he didn’t even bother to ask me my background, things like “what are you eating?”, “are you taking any drugs?”, “whats your daily routine?”, “whats your family health history?”, he didn’t prescribe any drugs or told me to take any blood tests, he just took my vital signs, checked my ear, nose and throat and said “I have a private clinic you should go to, for a special test that I do just to be sure”. The consultation lasted 5 minutes, 5 minutes later I was being charged hundreds of dollars, oh and I stood at the waiting room for 45 minutes because he was late by the way… I recovered, but never found out what it was, I was lucky but for some, it could be a serious problem that can only be detected in time if the doctor actually cares about the patient and is thorough in every aspect instead of making a record out of how much money he can make in one day.

  7. Doctors need to learn to treat patients as professionals and customers like any other business. This means, show up on time as scheduled; smile; and say thank you when we write you a check! Stop profiting from sick people, especially sick children.

      1. Yeah, good point. We pay our insurance company and they pay the doctors. I had a case, where my daughter was sick; the doctor saw her for 5 minutes and charged our insurance company for 15. When confronted, the response is: “why do you care? your insurance company pays for it!” This kinds of behavior is got to stop! It is one of the reasons that all of our insurance premium is going up. I bet you, if you add other all of their charges in a day, it would be > 24 hours. I wish the insurance company would go after them instead of raising our rates.

      2. My boyfriend recently got surgery done to remove his belly button or else it would turn cancerous he’s had since he was born now he’s getting sick every couple months it’s like he has a bad immune system. He’s had a bad immune system since he was little now it’s gotten worse due to clump they took out of his stomach. He’s also been coughing out blood and having blood coming out his nose while having this viral infection… I want a legit doc that can explain his problem…

    1. The psychiatric profession is the manifestation of Satan on earth.nasty vile oppressors who oppress the poor the marginalized all in the aid of helping the oppressive capitalist system
      Doctors do me a favour stay away from me get out of my life I totally have a disdain of the medical profession

  8. Anyone with an autoimmune disorder should look into gluten sensitivity as a possible cause. 50% of our population has a problem with gluten at least. I finally found a group of competent doctors who know what they are doing but in the meantime I was told that I would always be on thyroid meds because it is genetic. I never bought that line and now 13 years later I’m watching my meds lower as I heal my leaky gut and take care of the underlying reason that my thyroid went Hypo.

    Wasted time and money on all those quacks. Never again will I accept 5 minutes and a prescription.

  9. I use to think everything was good with doctors, they always helped me until I went to the ER last night, and I waited for 3 hours just for the doctor to tell me my pain was just a muscular ache. I tried to explain that it wasnt and I was Sickle Cell Anemic, but he did not listen he got mad and said “im not checking your blood” How can you tell me that my blood disease is NOT acting up WITHOUGHT checking my blood. ANd to top it all off I told him I had pain medicine at home, but that it didnt work, and GUESS what he prescibes me .THE SAME DAMN MEDICINE. GTHO.

  10. My friend has had a persisting cough, and went to numerous drs. She coughed with , and after every other word that came out. She got prescribed drugs that gave her various side effects, and did nothing at all for the problem. Personally, I have lost my faith in Drs a long time ago, so I tried to explain this to her. I told her that no Dr., at least not anytime soon would find a solution for her. All they will keep doing is prescribing some damn medication. She could not stop trusting Drs. I kept giving her recommendations on what she should do to treat herself, and the cough, naturally. She ignored me, and said that she would hurt herself by taking what I recommended, which most persons have their homes. Drs know more than me, and more than she could ever know. She believed that she was just unhealthy, and had a condition which was difficult to cure.

    Two years later, she became desperate, and I noticed that she began listening to me; needless to say, she finally took my advice, and accepted what I gave her. A few days later she began feeling better, and within a week the cough was gone!!!

    How is it possible that not one, but several Drs could not cure a persistent cough???? How could they be so negligent???, and why is it that me who is not a Dr. could help her get rid of a two year cough in about a week? Did I cure her? Did she make a good decision in taking ownership of her health, and not putting full trust on Drs? You be the judge!

    What made me first lose trust in a Dr. is when years ago, I had brought a friend to a Dr. The Dr. stated the diagnosis, and prescribed a drug. I began asking questions, about the condition, and then started to let the Dr. know that I have done research, and that based on the research, that the illness symptoms also pointed to other possible issues. The Dr. visibly got upset, and asked “who is the Dr. here?” “Why are you asking so many questions? Don’t you trust me?” I said that it’s not that, I just care about my friend, and wish to completely understand what the problem is, and if the drug that you are prescribing will help? The Dr. ignored me, did not answer any further questions, and said “take the prescription, and come back for a follow-up.” Needless to say, the drug did not help with the underlying problem. That is when I began to learn more about how the body works, and how to give the body what it really needs in order to function properly, such as eating right, eating specifically to cure a condition, and taking ownership of my own health. I DO NOT TRUST DOCTORS AT ALL. AND BELIEVE THAT THEY DON’T CARE ABOUT THEIR PATIENTS. IT’S ALL ABOUT MONEY!!! I use Drs to check my vitals(BTW, I can check my own vitals), do blood test, perform diagnostic test, like EKG, X-ray, and Sonogram; once the results are in, I finally treat my own self and ignore the inevitable prescribed drug that has many many many side effects. When I finally do let a Dr. treat me, it will be for something that I can not find a natural cure for or require their supposedly skills to help me (e.g. CPR, and etc); may God help me when that time arrives.

    My recommendations to all is if you go see a Dr. for any reason, go in to gain understanding of your condition; have a goal to ask questions, and always understand that the only person who fully cares about your health is you. Drs may find the problem, but they are not interested in helping you naturally; they believe that the only cures are by using drugs – in many cases this is completely untrue. So do your own research, and gain understanding of your own problem. Use common sense when trying to self treat, and just like you can’t believe everything a Dr. tells you, you must question what you read on the internet.

    Bent, I congratulate you for taking the time to realize that your condition was due to your job. No matter what anyone says; a Dr. should have told you that 7 years ago. There is NO excuse for this, NONE at all. They are Drs 24 7, this is what they went to school for, and should make time to research and cure. They are the only ones authorized to cure. Based on the US, no one else, but a Dr. can cure – screw that!, I AM not a Dr., and I can cure better than many Drs!!!!! And have no medical background!!!! Don’t believe me – don’t worry – it’s only a matter of time. The truth is coming out! and it is becoming more difficult to remain ignorant.

  11. I found this doing a search on “doctors suck” to.
    I have dry skin on my hands and feet, that they have always misdiagnosed because not one of the medicines they have gave me for it had helped. They even thought it was fungal infection, even though their test all said it was nothing, so I took tons of medicines for it and I never got any better. My life has been ruined because this apathetic “lets wait till you’re on your death bed to really try to treat you” mentality most doctors now have.

    I am 22 years old and have NEVER been healthy.
    Had tubes in my ears as a newborn. I kept getting ear infections as I got older. When I was a 2 year old , I was bitten on the back by a bug and got impetigo.I had missed a lot of school growing up and all they did for my throat and ear infections were prescribe more antibiotics.

    I then got sick in high school at age 16. Stomach and nausea problems that lasted almost a year and gradually got worse and worse. Till one day I had to just start missing school, not only cause all the doctors appointments and test, but cause the medicines (antibiotics) started to make me very very sick. I began to get female issues,throat infections and acne very bad after stopping the antibiotics. I was told to take birth control to help the lady issues, and then my hair started to fall out, and my teeth went soft and broke away when I ate. I stopped the birth control pills and still they wanted to put me on more. I declined… I had to quit school because I felt so bad.

    Now I don’t even care about the other stuff, now I have even worse problems that THEY created out of not helping me properly. I have been to every doctor in driving distance ( up to 5 hours from where I live) . Now I have to deal with the teeth that came from the birth control pills. I took them over a year ago and now they are becoming painful. I took antibiotics again about 3 months ago so I can do a root canal. I got a hairy face, and my hair started to fall out again. I went and got 3 cavities filled.
    After this I was suppose to come back and either get the root canal or have 2 of my teeth pulled. I decided to try and pay for a root canal cause my teeth are crowded and I did not want any shifting in my teeth. Well, I have an ear infection now that might have infected my brain. My jaw hurts and my whole face is in pain. I know they will just give me more medicines and I know it probably wont help, if not make me worse.
    Not only all this, but I could be pregnant… What can they do now?

    You would like to think these kinds of things would never happen, and have trust that Doctors are there to help, but I have found that this is not the case.
    I am messed up, and taking no medicines now because I am so scared.
    They have really not helped 1 of my problems, Only gave me more.

    1. @Maria: Read Earth Clinic – ear infection (type in search box). One of the ear cures is garlic and olive oil wrapped in a cotton round Let the garlic sit out 10 minutes after you slice the clove. Put a little olive oil in your ear and stick the cotton wrapped garlic clove in there. It is anti-fungal. It should clear the infection. Take a blow dryer (the next day) and hold it a foot from your head on low setting, gently allowing the warm air to flow in your ear. See if that helps.

    2. The medical mafia is a bunch of greedy arrogant up themselves bureaucratic medicine has an oppressive agenda to make money only socialist medicine a medicine owned by the people will do.also psychiatry is the tool of the oppressor against the oppressed.I have a pathological hatred of the medical profession including nurses.I hate doctors and nurses

  12. Going to the doctor is truly a waste of time and money unless you are DIEING. If you cut your arm off and are bleeding to death, then sure, go to the emergency room but otherwise doctors are a waste of money.

    There is really NOTHING a doctor can do for you because YOUR BODY has to Heal ITSELF. Yes, YOU are the only person who can make yourself healthy.

    The most unhealthy thing you can do is work at your job for 40+ hours a week!!! Working is what is KILLING everyone.

    100% of over the counter and 99% of all preconception medication does nothing more that RELIEVE SYMPTOMS. Medications do NOTHING towards healing, they just make you FEEL BETTER.

    The human body can fix itself. If you are in pain, then STOP DOING WHATEVER IS CAUSING THE PAIN!! In a few days, the pain will go away completely. If your back hurts then STOP DOING whatever causes the pain!!

  13. You all are so clueless about medicine that I literally laughed out loud reading the post and comments.

    – There is no evidence that working with your hands worsens Psoriasis. There IS evidence that cytotoxic drugs help. If you hadn’t been prescribed those drugs, it would have been malpractice.

    – Doctors aren’t late to their appointments for fun, doctors are late to their appointments because the last patient expected an hour of the doc’s time. The two patients before that didn’t show up. Docs need to book twice as many patients as they actually have time for to stay productive. On the rare day that more than half their appointments ACTUALLY show up, things get slow.

    – If you don’t want doctors to treat you, don’t go see the doctors. I promise, we won’t miss you. We are so overwhelmingly busy with people who DO want a magic pill for trivial complaints that we don’t need your business. If you can “treat yourself” then please do and stay out of my ER.

    1. How am I supposed to stay out of your ER if you don’t let people know who you are? I would like nothing more than to NOT have you treat me, but since you’re hiding your identity, I have no idea who you are.

      I’m pretty sure you’re an awful doctor. The fact that you incorrectly capitalized the word psoriasis is really quite telling.

      1. What an arrogant attitude you have I presume you are a doctor and a no 1_imbecile holding the gold medal for imbecility prejudice and pigheadedness men and women of the world I was abused grossly by a leading Australian psychiatrist and two of his nurses in the state of Victoria Melbourne Australia.which has one of the most oppressive psychiatric confinement laws in the world.can anyone help me overcome past psychiatric abuse? Please let me know.I think only god can do that.psychiatrists are evil

    2. Ryan, I think it’s great that you would offer to treat psoriasis at your Emergency Room to patients who would seek treatment from a doctor, I have a big boil growing on my ass right now, I’ve tried to treat it myself, but I’m not having any luck. What day are you working? I will schedule an ambulance ride to your ER that day. Don’t worry, I’ll show up on time, and probably a little early since we’ll have the siren going on the way there.

      1. What a jackass. With his own comment, he did more PR damage to the profession in which he claims to be a part of, than anything I wrote. I especially enjoyed the part about double-booking of patients.

        1. Yeah, he is everything that is wrong with doctors, in my opinion. I liked the “no evidence” part. It’s almost like the guy hasn’t bothered to learn anything about the topic. He nevertheless has an opinion, and will be insulted if his opinion is not treated with respect. He’s going to claim that nothing in his education told him that your phrase “…working with your hands…” was ever parsed in any of his textbooks. While he may be grammaticaly correct, aboout 10% of psoriasis patients develop a new psoriatic lesion each time the skin is injured. We’re not as clueless as he would claim. We patients know that in real life, nothing occurs in a vacuum. Everything happpens in context, and there are series of events that cause other series of events. It is really that hard for him to see that the action of you working with your hands can have a great potential of injuring your skin, and thus fulfill the requirement of the “Koebner phenomenon”? No, he knows that it can. He just doesn’t want to admit it, and will use a fallacy to say that it doesn’t.

        2. Yep, guys like him ARE the problem. If you hate people so much and don’t want to help them then do something else! What ER do you work in that takes appointments and double books??? Are you even a doctor?

        3. I am with you rick love your comments totally dislike the medical professional. Including the lying nurses once I was doing a nursing course in Australia and a nurse told the lecturer but we always lie to patients the lecturers response you should never lie to patients .nurses are liners and manipulators of people they also suck.

    3. Ryan, you are quite typical of the assorted asses I have interfaced with in the medical profession. Great attitude you have, I must say! I think your attitude absolutely sucks. If yall did your jobs, you’d have far fewer “I hate doctors comments”. Your IQ is just so, so high I am sure, that few mere mortals can relate. Like the Doc who never heard of the Garlique product available in drugstores, which works naturally for the cholesterol issue, to the imbecile who couldn’t read an EKG (IE-he says I better get to a cardiologist, and the cardiologist then says I could be flying jets with my EKG) Or, the imbecile who wants to perform outpatient prostate surgery for urinary symptoms, or give out drugs like Flomax with terrible side effects, when all I really needed was a natural product like Prostalex Plus. I could go on and on. I assert from experience that the average engineer or geo-scientist is smarter than the average Doc. Like most Docs, I am just playing the probabilities with this statement, so don’t hate me for being right. Your profession must really get its collective act together! It all starts with a change in the “tude”, combined with a little compassion and humility. Next time you should take notes when your patient speaks if you are really are intent on helping, rather than arrogantly asserting that the patient should be taking the notes when you condescend, followed by trashing the patient who informs himself through research beforehand.If I had not done this research countless times myself I’d have never gotten any relief for anything as a result of doctor performance or knowledge. So there! Nah!

      1. Yeah doctors are facist pigs thugs I was psychiatrically abused by a leading Australian psychiatrist here in the state of Victoria Australia.I was threatened by him a real pompous arrogant thug

    4. @Ryan: Is that why there are doctors living in trailers across the country? They lost their practice! Also, if two patients don’t show up there is no excuse for your tardiness. Get a watch.

    5. A lot of doctors are overpaid (not most ER doctors though), self-glorified, body mechanics, and most don’t even keep up with the recent stuff; worse yet, they delegate a lot of their job to a PA or a nurse. For example, not treating low T with SERMS, rather then straight testosterone (again not your fault, but many doctors are close minded). The drug companies and insurance companies dictate what they’re allowed to do and are not. What tests are permitted, what tests are not, am I wrong? One thing they’re useful for is blood tests, and prescribing antibiotics when necessary, and also some acute problems. We as patients don’t appreciate a superior condescending/patronizing attitude. We pay a lot of money out our paychecks for crappy insurance and still have copays. Not really your fault, but the ugly for profit American medical system. That’s why the show up in your ER. I cut you some slack for seeing the worst of the worst, the drunk and unruly.

    6. And you’re the exact reason why people don’t like or trust doctors….I swear, any can be a doctor nowadays. I’m sorry you’re so egotistical and full of yourself. Maybe when you have a medical emergency and can’t find a solution through another doctor will you understand. Worst of luck to you and your life!

  14. Oh, and I almost forgot. Next to politicians, doctors are the biggest bunch of charlatans on the face of the earth. Yeah, I said it!

  15. I concur, doctors suck.

    I haven’t visited a doc for over 10 years, with the exception of my annual well woman exam.
    That changed when I went into an urgent care for abdominal pains. The doctor berated me for taking vitamins without a docs supervision and when she heard that I cut back on carbs and was sticking to chicken, veggies, and raw food, she hit the roof. I read her notes about me, and it stated “she could be potentially hurting herself with this diet she INVENTED without assisted supervision.” WTF? Then I learn she isn’t even a doc, she’s a nurse practitioner. Yay me.

    She diagnosed me with “stomach pains” and found I had a UTI. The UTI meds gave me crazy side effects like chest pain, diarrhea, peripheral neuropathy, dizziness, etc. I thought all these symptoms could be attributed to a heart attack or stroke, and found myself in the ER multiple times.They never put it together. I kept notes of EVERYTHING and it wasn’t until I re-read my notes that I realized what the culprit was.
    When I went back to my doc, I expressed my concern that I might have long term neuropathy (a side effect of this drug, seen in a few patients- regardless of dosage or time taken) and she said “no, side effects go away when the drugs are stopped.” I asked her how we could know for sure that the meds are what gave this to me, and if they are still in my system. I also wanted to follow up on some previous sketchy blood tests.
    I was shot down on all accounts. The only way we would know if the meds are what did that to me, she said, would be if I were to take them again and get the same side effects.

    10 minute visit with her hand on the door practically the entire time, barely looking at me, interrupting me, costed me only a $10 co-pay but was billed to my insurance as a $249 visit. Wow.

  16. I too have lost my trust in doctors
    6 years ago I was diagnosed with reumitoid arthritis
    At that time I expressed that had been exposed to a lifetime of hazardous materials far exceeding the normal PEL for any of these materials including heavy metals,aromatic chemicals and pure silica quartz + all other refractory materials to which he dismayed
    He then went on to prescribe Remicade, Embrel, and MRA which is now marketed as Actemra
    None of these rugs seemed to work for me (at an extreme expense I need to add)
    I changed my line of work and things progressively got better
    I am no longer exposed to these substances, yet I still have the same job title (plant maintenance specailist)
    I have come to believe that what I actually was I classify as an industrial poisoning through exposure over a long period of time (25 years)
    I do still have some problems such as chronic pain but I am living with it, although the doctors seem to think it is all in my head as I will not accept thier determinations anymore
    I am a 53 old grandpa with 2 kids, one a grad student at Purdue (Immunology) and 3 grandchildren
    In conclusion all I can say is, WHY DO THINK THEY CALL IT A PRACTICE!

  17. I love it when doctors don’t know/don’t care what is wrong with you and all of a sudden it is ” all in your head”.

    If doctors where mechanics they would starve.

  18. Most people don’t possess the intelligence and education that doctors do. From my perspective doctors know everything about anything. I dectect jealousy when people talk down doctors. I wouldn’t be alive today if I haden’t been treated for my near deadly high blood pressure which was 137/67, pulse 75!!! And I had high cholesterol. My doctor got me started right away on beta blockers, ACE inhibitors a statin and an aspirin a day. My blood pressure is now a very safe 110/39 and my pulse is 46! Sure I’m feeingl achy and lathargic from the medication, but my doctor said those are just side effects and they won’t cause any harm. I’m thankful to be alive! My doctor says that I’ll live to be 100 being on these great drugs!

    1. @Josh: Are you a total idiot? 137/67 is not deadly!!! WTF. You’ve been taken but good. My husband’s HBP is 200 over 90 sometimes!!! That’s when they put him on meds. Mine went as high as yours a couple of times and they wanted me to take the meds and I said no–mine is usually perfect. Then he backed down and wanted me to go to GNC for over the counter HBP medicine. Forget that!!!

      1. The psychiatric profession uses the emotion of fear to control their patients they are big and tough because they have the power to send the police after you on their own they are just a bunch of ounces pieces of excreta imbeciles narrow minded hearthless oppressive bastards.the evil men and women of the profession of psychiatry are damaging people hurting them and let me say nurses too are manipulating lying conniving pack of. Bastards

  19. I’ve got the best one of all. I went to the doctor and since they couldn’t come up with what’s wrong with me (which I thought was hereditary) and they said since I have vitiligo I have AIDS. Too ridiculous for words!!!! Wow, where did they get their education? K-Mart??? I hope I live 20 MORE years and I come back to haunt them. ALIVE!!! What a bunch of retarded goons. Also, I need to note I went to a rheumatology clinic and they told me (beforehand) that I’m not even autoimmune. HAH!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Doctors suck. Typically they are overbearing ,arrogant, uncommunicative SOBs that come at you as if you were a cow. You’d just rather die at home than see their ignorant pathetic faces. The bulk of them do very poorly in chemistry, don’t REALLY understand anything and simply follow whatever the pharmaceuticals are pushing to make some extra cash.

    I you know of a site that exposes these quacks to health insurances/public (with the purpose of weeding them out), please post it.

  21. Dear Anonymous March 5, 2012 at 8:41 PM
    Please post full names and location of these quacks for out benefit.
    I sincerely hope you are doing well.
    Take care,

    Sara

  22. Medical Holocaust

    The leading cause of death and injury in the US is the health care system. Doctors are the third leading cause of death.

    American health care is more deadly than third world health care.

    1. Psychiatric abuse must stop in Australia psychiatric abuse is rife.psychiatrists have framed the laws of the state of Victoria,Melbourne Australia and with the help of that law they oppress and threaten people.

  23. @Cathy: They act like Gods, and charge way too much money for what they do. They screw up all the time and dont give a crap, they are lazy and money hungry.

    1. Couldn’t agree more I detest the whole medical profession nurses included .once I was in hospital and the burses left or forced to wear pyjamas during the day so that I would not escape.what a,bunch of sadistic pack of bastards.this happened in the state of Victoria Australia.its all right for celebrities to come out and say they are suffering from depression and urge ordinary people to seek help from the medical profession but if you are an ordinary person nobody cares about your mental illness instead you will be drugged to the max abused threatened and have the police sent after you by the pig fascists psychiatric profession

  24. My first terrible experience with a Doctor was back in the early 80’s at a teaching hospital. My wife delivered our first child there. When I seen her for the first time after delivery I was expecting to see a beautiful proud (Of course in pain and worn out because she delivered naturally) new mom who I was so proud of. Instead I seen an very scared woman who was clinging to me in fear. The first thing I expected her to tell me was about our new baby girl. Nope. The first thing she did was pull back the sheet and show me the inside of her thigh (while crying) and said. “Look at my leg!” I seen what first looked like a bite of some kind that was purple red and bleeding a little. It looked very painful. I asked her. “What is that, how did that happen?” She said. “That —– Doctor clamped a pair of those clamp things on my leg (hemostats)and left them there the whole time I was delivering the baby.” I went looking for the Doctor but no one would say where he was. They called security on me because I told them if somebody didn’t tell me where he was I would tear the whole place apart until I found him. As I proceeded to fulfill my promise two security guards showed up and subdued me after a short scuffle. When the three of us got to finally communicating about my rant and they realized why I was so mad. (I had my wife show them her leg) They both agreed that, if that Doctor did that to their wives they would have done the same. I never did find him. And the security guards said they would guarantee that that Doctor wouldn’t be allowed back in that hospital ever again. From there until we went home with our new daughter the rest of the staff treated my wife like a queen and me like they were scared to death (As they should have.) Every since then I have never trusted another Doctor. This was just the first of many more horrible things that has happened since. I have 10 grandkids now and am ex-military, ex-law enforcement, retired mechanic. I tell everyone the same thing. “Always remember that it doesn’t matter what field of work your talking about. 80% suck at the job and 20% are from OK to exceptional at what they do.” And you know, just like some child molesters will get work as a teacher or day care worker. Some Doctors will get into the medical field to try and inflict pain upon people legally. So BEWARE! I’ve seen a lot of things, this is but one of many horrible things Doctors have done to my family or me. One darn near killed me recently by overdosing me on a medication (Not because he tried to kill me but, because he sucked at his job. He simply failed to check the labs.) I’ll tell you about that some other time as I’m not a typist and my hunt and peck finger is getting tired.

  25. The biggest quack MD I ever dealt with was an internist who practiced applied kinesiology to “diagnose” patients’ ailments! All I wanted was a physician who was educated in nutrition and supplementation, not a witch doctor!

  26. I do not know what to think of visiting my PCP. I go to get a comprehensive annual exam/physical only for them to half azz it. When they draw blood, they dont even check for everything. You have to request stuff now. I feel that is a waste. That visit charges my insurance company $400 and for what? For them to check my height, weight, blood pressure and place two fingers down below and tell me to cough???

  27. I agree DOCTORS SUCK! They very rarely listen to patients, thinking they know it all! After all they are the “Doctor’s” right?!?!?! I have witnessed WAY too many so called Doctors screw up everything because THEY DONT LISTEN!!!!!! My brother who is now dead, 2 of my uncles that are now dead thanks to doctors. Then try and bring them to court for malpractice and see how easy that is. I am now living in addict land south Florida and what used to take only one Doctor in any other so called normal state now takes 3-4 for the same treatment. I am going to find my medications illegally for the shear fact it is easier than going through the mess of Florida’s red tape of retardation. I am down the middle in politics and now live in the right wing nut job state! I bet Rush doesn’t have a problem getting his fix! When I need my pain med’s for legit reasons I have to jump through hoops to get what I need when I can just find a shady dealer and have it in no time at all. NOW THEY WANT TO DO THE SAME THING WITH GUNS!?? This state and this country makes is own doom and blindly passes law after law making it harder on people who are legit. Doctors and lawyers are the lowest of all people. Huge ego’s and no common sense. This new system is terrible and new health care laws will make it worse. I HATE DOCTORS!!!!!!!! VERY FUCKING MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  28. I was right. AIDS test was negative. The doctors who put me through that nightmare should be fired or worse. What kind of doctor tells someone they have AIDS without doing the proper tests?

    1. That is a STUPID comment. How much education do you have, sir? Doctors have a minimum of 12 of med school training beginning with premed. Becoming a doctor is the highest level of achievement that a person can achieve. There is no such thing as a “dumb” doctor. Nobody is perfect and to err is to human. But human error is rare amongst medical doctors. Just remember people are living much longer today because of modern marvels in medical sciences. A generation from now people will live to be 120.

      1. Bit late, but this absurdity deserves a reply.

        I’ve got a graduate education, but even undergrad is enough to recognize the fallacy of appeal to authority and its lack of relevance in a rational debate. Intellect can be tested for, and many doctors are intelligent, but the mere acts of doing well on the MCAT, getting admitted, and then kissing ass until graduation, does not prove intellect. Gaming the system may be a kind of intelligence, but its not the kind of intelligence that makes people effective at doing the hard work of patient care.

        Doctors often don’t do pre-med. You don’t need pre-med to pass the MCAT, a science degree sure, but not pre-med. I know this because I was divided between taking the LSAT and MCAT so studied for both. I did fine with a science background and a single A&P course. I guess you could argue that A&P means I did pre-med, but six credits out of a 150 credit degree that wasn’t in pre-med argues otherwise.

        Doctors are frequently lazy and do not keep up with the current state of the science, either generally or in their field. Many of them appear to shut off their brains completely following medical school and do everything based off an incomplete decision tree. The argument I often see is that the US must have the best doctors because we pay them the best. No, that merely proves that we have the greediest doctors. Its a false equivalence to state that greed is the best criteria to practice medicine. The best doctors are the ones who love medicine and helping other. As such many of the best doctors are in Doctors Without Borders, or working in underpaid positions at rural clinics. I mean, who would you rather have fix your car, the most expensive mechanic or the fellow who loves working on cars in his spare time?

        Medical error, due to bad doctors normally, are the third leading cause of death in the US. And that’s only counting the medical errors that are actually caught. I suspect they’re actually the leading cause of death, because, in law school, I had a great deal of experience with the honesty, or complete lack thereof, of those in the medical profession. Leave a surgical sponge in a patient, nurse musta dropped it, or it was there from a previous operation, and apologize for a mistake that crippled someone or killed a family member? Hell no, that might imply they were anything other than perfect.

        Human error is incredibly common among doctors, otherwise it wouldn’t be the third leading cause of death in the US.

        And a generation from now people will still only live to their mid-70s, because the age at death has plateaued, largely as a result of doctors no longer advancing medical science. Much of that relates to the establishment, but the establishment is run by doctors.

        At any rate, you know not of which you speak.

  29. I think the future is people learning to take care of their own health and learning what to try based on other people’s experiences. Some people might say that’s a dangerous statement but if you go to the doctors now, they will very easily prescribe you poisonous medication. Most doctors just really don’t care about you or your health. They want you out of their office without complaint and to collect the money. They are jaded and are just humans with flaws. For some reason we imagine them to hold all the answers and care but we have to accept that they just don’t. People of average intelligence can learn a ton about the specifics of their condition on the internet through a lot of research. Doctors are good for some things and can help sometimes but they rarely are treating you properly. The number one thing you can do for your health is diet and exercise. REAL food prepared at home. High blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, bowel diseases, skin diseases, etc….if the body doesn’t have pure fuel, it fails. Just like impurities in your gasoline.

  30. If Western medicine is so bad then why are people living longer? I’ll tell you why it’s because the marvels of modern medicine are prolonging life. One of the most important drugs on the market are statins. Iy used to be that people were dying from heart attacks and strokes before statins were prescribed. Now statin medications cure heart disease and let you live to be 100. Blood thinner like Plavix are life savers too. There are so many great medications that cure high blood pressure and get rid of cholesterol your body doesn’t need from fat foods. There are many websites that successfully debunk “alternative cures” because they don’t work. Only science based medicine is safe and effective. If it wasn’t safe then the FDA wouldn’t allow it to be produced. I can personally attest to the greatness of modern medicine. I take statins, a blood thinner and a beta blocker. My doctor was alarmed because my BP was 130/65. My doctor said that I was practically knocking on death’s door with BP that high; my cholesterol was over 150 (really bad) and my doctor said that I must be medicated as prevention. My BP is now 100/46. My doctor was pleased with the results. Other than feeling tired a bit achey and a bit withdrawn and a little bruised from the Plavix, I believe that I’ll live to 100 like my doctor says I will. I believe my doctor because doctors know WAY more than anybody else. And besides you can’t argue with scientific proof of lifesaving prescription medications. If science doesn’t prove it then it isn’t real.

  31. Steve, it’s people like you who needs to remove your blinders. Fact: People aren’t living longer today. However the infant mortality rate has decreased thus raising the bar on “people living longer.” In my lifetime I have witnessed so many egregious errors committed by doctors. My dear mother paid with her life because of the medical errors, poor decisions and misdiagnoses she was wrought with. I have personally experienced inferior doctoring myself. I personally know some people who suffered under their doctors care, even suffering permanent neurological and muscular damage as a result. All of the “wonder drugs” that are dolled out like candy nowadays that are prescribed as “preventive” means. WTF?!?! My poor mother suffered permanent muscular, bone and neurological damage from the goddamn statin medication that her “brilliant” doctor said she “must take or you’ll die.” My mother died from liver and kidney failure and suffered stomach ulcers and she was on a grand total of nine prescription drugs. So Stephen, don’t spout off about all of the education and supreme intelligence of doctors. A med student who graduates at the bottom of his or her class is still a doctor. Human error IS NOT RARE amongst medical doctors! I am witness to that! Yes, there are some DUMB Dr.’s out there! The dumb decisions they make; indecisive, arrogant and WRONG! Steve, are you so DUMB that you actually think people will live to be 120 a generation from now? Give me a BREAK! It ain’t gonna happen dippy doo! “Modern marvels” you say? You mean the chemicals that Dr.’s are shoving down their patients throats? You got to remember that there wouldn’t be a healthcare industry if there were true cures. It will never happen. Big pharma will produce new drugs to counter the negative effects of other prescription meds. It’s all about TREATMENT. THERE WILL NEVER BE CURES FOR CANCER, HEART DISEASE, ALZHEIMER’S, ETC. What would be the point of a cure? Cancer treatments and treatments for heart disease are what funds the medical facilities and Big Pharma.

  32. Docs are respected in countries OUTSIDE the us which has some of the poorest quality yet most expensive in the world. The populous is generally fixated on celebrity gossip, who can dance, and scarfing down burgers/corn syrup than to be enlightened at the lawsuit happy country they are in, whereby folks are looking for the “easy”way out–sue, want free this, that, and vilify their docs for not giving them VIP level services. Yet where is the outrage on insurance companies, their corrupt governments? naaah b-ball is on?? most americans are sheeple, imbeciles and naïve about a lot. Many are debt slaves, naïve, and want things for little to nothing with a smile/happy talk–and then villify doctors/health profs who have a minimum of 11-13 years of schooling post HS with 300K in student loan debt unlike any other country. They have debt b/c america wants wage slaves and sheeple to be hamster wheeling to 60,70+. Debt=fear, agita, and slave mentalities. How’s that “freedom thing?” Remember there are non stop wars to fund. Dig it. Pharma owns americant “health” “care”–it is NOT the docs. This YOUR system of crapitalism. Time to leave. sinking ship.

  33. Sadly there are far too many medical doctors who really don’t care about their patients. From my experiences the worst experiences with medical doctors are in hospitals. Personal experiences that left me disgusted and cynical of the medical profession. As imbittered as I am, I realize that somewhere on this dusty sphere there are some medical doctors with warm blood pulsing through their veins and not ice water. My pursuit of a warm, compassionate and authentically caring doctor have been fruitless ventures.

  34. Itsnotcompetition

    @Nancy Sheritan:

    I don’t think you can read one article and gage what actually bothers the American people. In fact the number of people unhappy with the government is leaning toward a majority these days. Most of us are unhappy with the system. And every day someone new begins to wake up and realize what the real bottom line is. That’s why the majority of these comments aren’t defending doctors… Compared to other countries with similar medical successes (and our very high misdiagnosis rate) our doctors and medical proceedures are extremely overpriced. You’re in the wrong place to be blanket labeling Americans as “sheeple.” Please go somewhere that believes Oncologists are God.

  35. Itsnotcompetition

    All that being said, this is a very petty and poor example of the failings of modern American doctors. Please feel free to search around and find stories from people who have suffered decades with misdiagnosis’ and serious illnesses due to perscription drugs. I’m sure you’ll find more than a few that die in misery due to late or improper treatment.

    Waiting on a doctor who is 45 minutes late is not what everyone is so upset about…

  36. I am very late to this party but yes… doctors suck. I would expand this to dentists as well. I am starting to think that “emergency” or other trauma doctors don’t suck. But if you did not have your leg blown off… they refuse to take care of you. I live in a State that will now allow me to pay for my own tests at a private lab. But if you live in one I would recommend that you just take care of your own health. If I ever have the opportunity I would like to start a “real world” medical website so people can search on their own medical info. Web MD and such are ok but did you ever notice they “symptoms” are usually vague? I believe this is so people will go to their doctor. Most things have like “one” symptom that is like the “ah hah” symptom, but the medical field will never tell consumers direct.

  37. Doctors in America have became damn near worthless. These bastards have rarely helped me with anything. I have been suffering the majority of my life, but they always say I’m perfectly healthy. There’s been a couple ones that were ok. The best doctors are in foreign countries. Went to a doctor in Korea after having a severe flu like symptoms. The doc gave me a shot and some pills, the next day I was completely better. Not only that, but he took it seriously. Docs in America, unless you’re squirting blood outta your arteries will tell you, “you’re fine just have some Tylenol”.

  38. After repeated visits to doctors that do not listen, do not know as much about my issues as I do, and who charge a fortune to do NOTHING beneficial, I decided to stop playing the game. I had one doctor want me to come in for a second visit to discuss the results of my cholesterol test that was taken at a previous appointment. I told the nurse on the phone “no” and to “just tell me the result”. She put me on hold and went to tell the doctor I would not come in for a visit to discuss the result. When she came back on the phone, she said, “Your cholesterol is in the normal range and no prescription is necessary. Just watch your cholesterol consumption.” I was SO ANGRY that my doctor was trying to require me to come in to discuss a NORMAL test result. He wanted to charge me for a second visit that I didn’t need AND cost me time away from my job to tell me my test was NORMAL! That was the last straw in a long line of crappy, unhelpful, arrogant, greedy, behavior. I fired him.

  39. I don’t have a story quite as rich, but my recent experience with a doctor just made me laugh at his ineptitude.

    So I have minor GERD. I make an appointment to see the doctor and they bump me up to a earlier time. 2 pm instead of 4pm.

    Great. The sooner the better. Except the doctor didn’t know he was supposed to be in and didn’t see me until 3pm….nor did he know the surgery was closed due to a Jewish holiday.

    Nothing accomplished except giving him a earful. And he still had the gall to charge me for filling out paperwork and talking with him for five minutes.

    I’ve been lucky when it comes to doctors. But this one was just hopeless.

  40. I agree that the medical profession seems to be in love with itself and has only one use for the patient – to empty their wallet.

    I am in my 50’s and am not and never have been a skinny cute little thing. I have always been big and I am not attractive in the least. I know this, no delusions at all. It is just the way I am. Every doctor I go to for anything from a broken ankle to a persistent rash has done nothing but hassle me about my weight.

    I kid you not that when I broke my ankle (tripped by a dog, over a garden hose and into a concrete wall), the doctor actually had the guts to suggest that my ankle was not the problem, it was my weight (seriously about 190lb – big freaking deal). He then made me walk out of the office (VERY painful), to my car and drive myself to get an x-ray without any interest in the additional damage or pain. He was only interested in making sure that I was charged for a 30 minute vs a 15 minute appointment since HE made me sit and ramble on about my weight for an extra 15 minutes. I then had to call him for two freaking DAYS to get him to return my phone calls about the results. Yea, broken. Yea, needed surgery. No, he would not bother to speak to me but instead had his nurse read me a form and tell me to just go to the emergency room if I wanted to have it fixed. Unbelievable.

    Every doctor I have ever seen in my 50+ years has been exactly the same – rude, preachy, judgemental, narcissistic and useless. They throw pills and insults with about equal frequency. The skin rash I have had for the last few years is just “dermatitis” which doesn’t actually mean anything other than your skin is pissed off. They just give me the same pills and cream over and over (which does not help) and push me out of their office without any concern about the actual cause of the issue. They just shrug me off and give me BS answers while happily charging me for specialist rates, or simply refuse to see me for months because I need a new referral, which the original doctor says I don’t need. The only other thing the Dermatologist said was that she would be happy to send me to a friend of hers that specializes in plastic surgery if I wanted to do anything about my “obvious” issues (yea, I said I was kinda ugly).

    Oh, and try being a 4F around doctors (Female, Fat, Fertile and over Forty). Walk in and they dismiss you as a hypochondriac attention seeking dingbat. I go to a doctor maybe once every 5 years (only when I am very sick or have a broken bone) because I am just completely unwilling to be treated like shit by every member of the medical profession that I come into contact with.

    Doctors suck. I would prefer to just be seen by a computer that has a scanner and a data entry terminal where I could list my symptoms, provide any bodily fluids or access to body parts as needed and just move on to the fix. Instead we get these egotistical maniacs that think they are god and we are dirt.

  41. I agree doctors suck. All of the complaints above are absolutely valid. This week I went to a doctor for a small stain under my toe. First doctor literally took a photo and sent it to the derm. $400 dollars to insurance. Derm insisted that they couldn’t look at the photo and know anything so I had to have an appointment. The office told me I had ONE choice for the appointment. So I took it. The derm came in and glanced at it (400 again) and told me I needed a biopsy which would remove my nail and the nail may never grow back properly. I went out and they insisted I do it right then. I said no and I wanted to know what exactly they would be doing but no one would tell me. They just said the doctor would have to decide when he looked at it. They suggested it would be a minor procedure and I could go to work that later that day. I looked it up and there were numerous experiences all over the internet saying it was a week or more recovery at home and a month or more until you felt normal again. All had been told it would be nothing. I finally had it. The scare tactics and lies were insane. “but it could be melanoma”. Well the world could end tomorrow. I cancelled.

    Obviously dermatologists have figured out the scam. Every mark on your body *could* be deadly so they want every mark removed at a *surgery* cost to your insurance no matter that it takes 10 minutes to perform the procedure. They literally see nothing wrong with you maming yourself so they can get some money.

    I work the law and I am constantly dismayed at the attitude of most people that doctors are gods and are looking out for your best interests, despite the facts. Doctors will never be held accountable until this attitude ends.

    Why has no one started a website where people can diagnose others and offer support? Where bad doctors can be listed? I would love to do it but I just don’t have the time or expertise.

  42. You sound just cocky enough that if I ever stumbled into your “ER” if you want to be so generous as to call it so, then I would be sure to whip your ass and make ya glad to be there.

  43. Never minding lack of any bedside manners, the real reason that Doctors suck is because they are ineffective, or even worse harmful!! Look at the top three killers in United States – number 1 & 2 are tied, Cancer and Heart disease at around 600K annual deaths. Number 3 is doctor and hospital caused deaths at 250K annual deaths (source: washingtonpost). Not only do doctors and hospitals cause many unnecessary deaths, they are ineffective at treating cancer. Since war on Cancer was declared in 1972, hundreds of billions of dollars of money has gone in to research, and even many more dollars into actual treatment (chemotherapy, radiation therapy, surgery). Yet, mortality is pretty much the same every year, and slight decline in mortality can be ENTIRELY ACCOUNTED by DECLINE IN SMOKING! So what is doctors are only good for treating heart disease, but this is almost entirely life style disease, almost completely avoidable. So bottom line is for people who lead a healthy life style, there is not much reason to ever visit a doctor, except for accidental injuries and infections.

  44. I’m very late to this thread, but as a physician I can agree that PLENTY of doctors suck. I’ve seen some really terrible examples. Unfortunately, some of the doctors who are the most loved (‘he really listens!’) can be some of the worst at medicine, and some of the least popular are damn good…but, they don’t tell people what they want to hear much, and they take a great deal of abuse. Then, there’s always a few who are terrible AND unpopular, and you can’t help but wonder how they’ve stayed around so long.

    On the flip side, I won’t hesitate to say that PLENTY of patients suck too, and the same terrible depersonalization and misery that patients experience is something doctors go through as well. The catch is that nobody wants to give anybody else any sympathy or consideration. Doctors feel patients don’t realize how much worse it could be (‘you should see the horrors I’ve seen’), and patients think doctors ‘chose this life and have no right to complain.’ Both are right, both are wrong.

    A big part of what makes a doc or patient “suck” is unrealistic promises and unrealistic expectations. I tell most patients that I can’t make them feel perfect, but that I will try to make them feel ‘better.’ A surprising number of patients won’t accept this, and a surprising number of doctors won’t say it….but it’s true. Death and pain and loss of function are coming to 100% of us, and all we can really do is make our deterioration and death less arduous. Docs should only offer what they can and patients should only expect what is possible. But it takes both sides to do this simultaneously. When it happens, no matter how horrible or hopeless the condition, we usually work it out. When only one (or neither) party holds up their end of the bargain, someone – perhaps both – are going to feel that the other one sucks.

  45. I know you wrote that you found a good doctor but I think any doctor who doesn’t question the genisis of allopathic medice sucks. They do much much much more harm than good. I absolutely cringe when anyone with a difference voice than that of the pharma/healthcare industrial complex is told “but you’re not a doctor” As if being a doctor has anything to do with health. Doctors ruined my health. The “health care” system we have is focused on managing symptoms (while making other things much worse) not curing anything. What we have is Rockefeller medicine. Sick Sick Sick!!!!!!!!!

    1. So you know, that’s an appeal to authority and is a common logical fallacy. A person’s correctness is entirely independent from their education. It is dependent on verifiable facts, and education may indicate more familiarity with those facts, but education, in and of itself, proves nothing. For all we know they slept through medical school, even assuming medical school taught them the proper treatment for whatever ails us.

      I used to explain how logic works to these people. Now I just respond with, “You’re right, unlike you and Mengele I am not a trained doctor, so, other than confirming my moral superiority, what is your point?”

  46. the western medical machine’s approach is simply torture you enough with red tape and incompetence that death is a happy relief from dealing with those jerks

  47. I agree, the body has to heal itself. I got overdosed on a Thyroid medicine. What did the docs do, They told me it was no big deal, when in fact it was. That overdose destroyed my gut health, created leaky gugt and the docs just wanted to stick me on a new medicine. But with a faulty digestion system that is leaking food and toxins into my blood stream, no medicine is going to work properly. I started researching leaky gut, which by the way, when going to a gastro doctor, told he told me there was no such thing as Leaky gut, and persisted to want to convince me I needed a colonoscopy to check for cancer. I just started researching myself. I found great information on the internet. You just have to weed out the garbage that you find. I changed my diet, started an extensive detox using Activated charcoal, Betonite Clay, and coffee enemas, and gut and thyroid friendly supplements. Within a few months my Gastro issues were subsiding. In the process of this entire detox, I got roped into taking a cologuard test. Now I have a positive test. Positive for what? I have no idea and neither did my doctor. A test that has a 15% false positive rating and a 9% false negative rating. So now, I have to get the colonoscopy anyway. It wouldn’t surprise me that old detox cells were in my sample and raised a red flag. I had bacteria, SIBO, candida and yeast overgrowth, but hey, the doc knows best right??? And the most disturbing thing I found, or really didn’t find were any reviews on Cologuard. Doing an extensive search, websites came up that looked like very unfavorable reviews, but when I clicked on the link, it was removed. ALL OF THEM. You aren’t going to ever convince me that Big Pharma and the entire medical system and all that are invested in it aren’t tied to what you see and DON’T see. It’s a total scam and something needs to be done. Insurance companies have way too much power influencing what the docs can and can’t do and prescribe. My insurance will fill a poison meds at no cost to me, but if I want to have that medicine compounded to make sure it’s not tainted and there aren’t a bunch of unnecessary fillers, I have to pay upwards of $100 and submit a request for the script to be filled. Oh and then when you find something that will actually work as I did for an autoimmune disease, even bringing all sorts of research and information, the doctor tells me he can’t just prescribe something because I read it on a “BLOG” post. Stop the Thyroid madness is way more than a “BLOG” post. It’s a nationwide movement of millions of Thyroid patients that have come together to share their information along with numerous awards. But that wasn’t good enough for the doctor. All he has to do is a simple search of LDN and autoimmune disease and the would easily get over half a million hits with tons of information, the majority of all coming from practicing thyroid specialists. SCREW DOCTORS, BIG PHARMA AND INSURANCE.

  48. Annette L Potter

    Try having insomnia. When I was 15 I was forced to see a psychiatrist and he literally tore me to shreds. That was my first introduction to doctors in general. Later I developed severe chronic insomnia and there is no thought given at all that it could be a medical condition. He’ll no because they are too stupid to see that possibility they blame me with things like anxiety and depression. They are so wrong. I hate them. They are all a bunch of macho chauvinist pigs. They’ll treat a symptom till he’ll freezes over but they won’t treat the disease because they make more money treating a symptom. I wish they would all just burn in freaking hell!!!

  49. Annette L Potter

    I hate them more. They’re no safe to visit because they can falsely accused you of making a threat even if you did not make a threat they could stick you in a psych ward which is a date worse than death. Because he has me after his name other doctors will believe him over you. It is not safe to go to a doctor.

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