The night an F-4G Wild Weasel fired a missile at a B-52G

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This illustration depicts aircraft B-52G 0248. Although the image is too small to read clearly, the nose art shows the nickname “In Harms [sic] Way.”

Back in 1991, on the first night of Operation Desert Storm, an F-4G Wild Weasel fired an AGM-88 HARM anti-radiation missile at B-52G 0248. The Wild Weasel crew mistook the B-52’s radar-controlled tail gun for an unknown ground-based Iraqi anti-aircraft artillery site.

Fortunately, the HARM missile failed to make a direct hit. Instead, it detonated behind the bomber.

HARM Missiles Make Lousy Anti-Aircraft Weapons

The AGM-88 HARM missile was never designed to target aircraft. It was built to strike stationary ground-based radar systems. When a HARM missile senses is moving, it detonates automatically.

In this case, the resulting shrapnel and debris caused extensive damage to the tail section of aircraft 0248, tearing away everything aft of the vertical stabilizer. This included much of the tail gun system, the aft electronic warfare suite, and the drag chute.

Despite the severe damage, the B-52 managed to land safely in Saudi Arabia.

The night an F-4G Wild Weasel fired a missile at a B-52G
Aircraft 0248 after we fully repaired it. I’m the guy on the far right.

The Air Force eventually sent aircraft 0248 to Andersen Air Force Base (AFB) in Guam for repair. I participated in its restoration.

Guam: My Favorite Place in the World

This wasn’t my first time at Andersen AFB. I was stationed there from 1988 to 1990 as a member of the 43rd Organizational Maintenance Squadron (OMS). We worked on the B-52G aircraft assigned to the 43rd Bomb Wing, and I served in the Electronic Countermeasures (ECM) shop.

In 1990, the Air Force selected the 43rd Bomb Wing for deactivation. I remember losing our aircraft almost immediately, but the personnel couldn’t be reassigned as quickly. Most of us spent months without a real job.

I was lucky. They made me the nighttime dorm chief. From 5:00 PM to 7:00 AM, I sat at a desk in our dorm’s dayroom, letting people into their rooms when they were locked out. One of my main duties was distributing free toilet paper rolls to anyone in need.

I spent an excessive amount of time reading Dragonlance novels and playing Tetris. To the best of my recollection, I worked two days on and one day off on a seven-day rotation.

It was a sweet gig. All things considered, I’m sure there were worse things I could have been doing.

Eventually, the Air Force assigned me to Griffiss AFB in central New York, where I reported for duty in July 1990. Unfortunately, I was no longer working directly on B-52s. Instead, I was assigned to the 416th Intermediate Level Maintenance Squadron (ILMS) ECM avionics shop. It was responsible for repairing Line Replaceable Units (LRUs) removed from B-52 aircraft, not only at Griffiss AFB, but at other B-52 bases as well.

Compared to working on the actual planes, I hated it.

The Iraq War 1.0

On August 2, 1990, Iraq invaded Kuwait. As soon as the Air Force began deploying personnel from Griffiss in support of Operation Desert Shield, I started volunteering to go. I had spent my first five years in the Air Force overseas, constantly training for war. Then, as soon as I was assigned stateside, things suddenly got real-world serious. It didn’t seem fair.

Our shop sent five or six people to Guam to work in the ECM shop there. Even though I volunteered to go, I was not selected. As I was new to working in the shop, there wasn’t much I could do. At the time, I was only working on the control boxes for the AN/ALQ-155 electronic warfare system. I was assigned to the ALQ-155 shop upon reporting to the 416th ILMS. The reason? At Griffiss AFB, they called the ALQ-155 “ROTs.” It stood for “Receiver Oscillator Transmitter.” My last name is Rottman. Showing up there with “ROT” in my name seemed like a message from God.

Finally, in November, I got my chance. My shop chief called me. He needed to volunteer someone to deploy in support of Operation Desert Shield. I suspect he chose me because I’d been pestering him for nearly three months to send me to Desert Shield. He admitted he didn’t even know where I’d be going, only that he needed a volunteer.

Back to Guam

It turned out I was going back to Guam. I was replacing someone our shop sent in back in August. He was returning to Griffiss because his mother was ill. Supposedly. At least that’s what the Red Cross said.

When I arrived at Andersen AFB, I learned I wouldn’t be working in the avionics shop like the person I replaced. Instead, I was assigned to the group performing phase maintenance on B-52s deployed at Diego Garcia, a tiny island in the Indian Ocean. I was attached to the 1500th Strategic Wing (Provisional).

We were the only bomb wing in the Air Force without our own aircraft. Additionally, we were the only bomb wing commanded by a non-pilot. Our wing commander previously served as the 43rd Bomb Wing Maintenance Commander. I wish I could remember his name; he was a great leader. Looking back on my Air Force career, I mostly remember the names of the terrible supervisors and commanders I had. Not the good ones.

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    Inky

    I actually worked on the tailgun section at Castle AFB after they were able to cut the aft section off of a B-52G which had “broken its back”. After refitting all of the components into the newly “pasted” tail, and to get it functioning again, we were able to get it to track on the 141 radar test set, almost 30 degrees/sec. The minimum being 15 degrees/sec. Of course, that took tons of man hours to accomplish, with a team of DFC Specialists for the AGS-15. I was just glad that the wiring was flawless once we got the B-52G.

    And yes, I was mildly irked when our jobs as 321×1Gs was no longer needed.

    Inky
    320FMS
    43AMS
    93OMS

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    Inky

    I forgot to mention, that I received a call from Diego Garcia on the day 0248 was hit. Actually, the nearest DFCS Mechanic, I just happened to answer the phone. The person on the other end wanted to know how to jettison the tailgun while in the air. I guess his question was prior to the aircraft reaching DG. Not having know the current situation, I basically told him that the only way to jettison the tail gun section was to hit with a missile. The caller then explained why he needed to know, and wasn’t sure if the turret was just dangling off the end of the aircraft. After our short discussion, they decided to do a fly by to see the condition of the turret.

    After knowing what I knew then, I guess they saw that the whole aft section was completely blown off. And jettisoning the turret was not necessary.

    I had no Idea that I would actually work on the aircraft a couple months down the line and bring it back into service. That is, after they pieced together the wiring and the aft section.

    This should make for some interesting discussions.

    Inky
    320FMS
    43AMS
    93OMS

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    Ace

    I have often wondered how many people remembered this A/C. I was at Diego also, 4300 Provisional Bombardment Wing. The patches we had made were a dragon with the B-52 engines. I am “Sheet Metal” and do remember when this all happened. It was cool running across this article. Thank you for sharing.

    Ace

    42 FMS
    93 FMS

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    Randy

    Our tail numbers did’nt go that low. Usually 0492,etc. I worked @ Robins prior to being trans. to Andersen. What a pity…I always knew the gunners were to crazed. Randy.

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    Bob Deasy

    Well…Not quite right…

    I was the Radar Navigator on this aircraft on this mission. A/C was Linwood Mason, CP was Lance Press, EW was Red Urband, Nav was Joe Mitchell and the Gunner was TSGT Zack Peters, probably the finest Gunner I ever met, a pro and an instructor…and he did not lock up the weasel.

    You need to check SAC TAC Doctrine (classified) for similarities between B-52 FCS Radars and Soviet Threat Radars to find out why the weasel was so interested in us. The missile did remove everything aft of the vertical stab…all the schrapnel holes went through the top and out the bottom of the horizontal stab…the fuselage was “beer canned” on the bottom where there is a natural break in the fuselage line on the bottom. We never contemplated “jettisoning the FCS because we knew from visual inspection from our #2 that it was already gone. The drag chute did deploy in flight at 400′ and 400kts…but was instantly streamered due to high airspeed…It was drug all the way back to landing…There was no flyby at DG because the A/C was first recovered into Jedda, Saudi Arabia, where it was prepped for ferry to DG. Crew recovered to DG via KC-10 3 days later and rejoined the combat rotation. The reason the Guns came off the Buff had nothing to do with this incident…rather…it was a way to save $$$ because the threat of enemy fighters to the B-52 was no longer deemed viable given advances in C4ISR and operational tactics. Maintenace crews did do an amazing job of restoring life to this airframe…it went on to win best bomber team at “Gunsmoke” 2 years later and was flown by myself and others to Davis Monthan for final ‘disposition’…Hope this sets some things straight.

    Bob D.

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      Jeff M

      Bob Deasy has it right. I was a Barksdale Gunner, deployed to Diego Garcia from Mid August 90 until we left in Feb or Mar 91 (except for the few weeks our crew spent in Jeddah SA after night one). I knew the Gunner, Zack very well during that entire time. We lived together, hung out together and fished together. Zack was an instructor and a pro, in all aspects. There is no way he “locked up” the Weasel. Like Bob Deasy says, there are reasons the Weasel was interested in the B-52G FCS. In my opinion this was a case of both aircraft being in the wrong place (doing the absolute right things) at the same time. The ENTIRE crew did a hell of a job keeping that BUFF from impacting the ground and then recovering it to a safe landing after the hit.

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      T.F.

      I responded to this aircraft prior to takeoff to rekey the IFF mode IV computer. Remember talking to crew, AC Mason was a super guy. I gave the AC my best wishes and we chatted for a few minutes. When I heard the plane got shot from friendly fire, I was concerned that my rekeying had somehow not worked and as a result we had a friendly fire incident. I worked on the aircraft again after it returned to base to remove any equipment we could keep at DG to use as spares, we stripped it down to what was only needed to ferry it back to Guam. The turret area was trimmed and patched to make the flight to guam.

      T.F.

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    Rick Rottman

    Bob, thanks for all the corrections. I was only going on what I was told at the time. Considering some of the other info I was given at the time by some of the same people, it stands to reason that what they did tell me about AC 0248 was bunk.

    Before working on BUFF’s on Guam, I was stationed in the Philippines where I worked on the F-4G and the Wild Weasel system. The FCS would have been identified as an Unknown AAA site unless the threat library software was updated right before the war. It very well may have, but I would have thought this whole accident wouldn’t have happened if that had been the case.

    Thanks again for the info and sorry that I passed on false information about your crew member. It was not intentional.

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    Michael Badillo

    Wow!

    I was also in the 4300 PBW on the Rock when that happened. I remembered the patch, because the “dragon” looked like an armadillo with bomber wings and we called it a “Bombadillo.” This was especially funny to some of my friends because my last anme is Badillo and is similar to Tom Bombadil from “Lord of the Rings.”

    I don’t remember where the aircraft was from.

    Thanks for the blast from the past,

    Michael Badillo
    USAF, but not anymore

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    Michael Badillo

    Does anyone have an image of that 4300 PBW patch?

    Thanks,

    Michael Badillo,
    RavenRux@COX.NET

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    Rick Rottman

    Michael, have you looked on eBay? I was able to get copies of all my old organizational patches that way. When I was in the Air Force, I didn’t care about keeping that stuff. It didn’t become important to me until later on.

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    Tony

    Hello all,

    I normally don’t jump into forums, but by coincidence I’m a freelance military photojournalist with a particular interest in the B-52. I’m actually co-authoring a title on the subject – actually my second. During my research I’ve read about the B-52/HARM mystery.

    I’ve had numerous B-52 acquaintances who have advised me that it wasn’t a HARM that impacted the B-52G, 58-0248. And coincidently, I had cause to interview Col. George “John Boy” Walton (Ret) for a project titled “Iron Hand” a few years back. Col. Walton was the commander of the 561st TFS(P), which provided SEAD in F-4Gs during Desert Storm. Col. Walton informed me that no HARM was launched against a B-52 on the night in question.

    And by way of FOIA, I recently acquired a volume of the SAC 1991 History which covered Desert Storm in detail – some 900 pages were declassified. And while the B-52/HARM incident is just briefly mentioned, the document attributes a SAM as the probable cause.

    Bob Deasy and I have a mutual friend who offered to introduce us sometime ago, and I may have to take my friend up on his offer!

    Anyhow, I just thought I’d add this insight to the discussion.

    Sincerely,

    Tony

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    Rick Rottman

    OK Tony, first of all this isn’t a forum. It’s a blog. Second of all, this particular aircraft was indeed damaged by a HARM missile.

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    Harold

    I remember this B-52, I was with Rick on Guam, and when it came in it looked like a bobed tail buff.

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    Harold

    Hey Rick, this is Harold Dixon from Loring, you sure had alot more hair then, haha. I think 0248 was originally called Dr Feelgood but the name had to be changed due to the nature of the song by Motly Crue. After it was all said and done it was called First Strike. I was on Guam with my Supervisor TSGT Larry Shannon and my friend Brody Gould. This aircraft did wrinkle up to the production break just aft of the stabs with large pieces of schrapnel pentrating the horisontals. It was a miracle that it made it back with its crew intact and just a testiment to the skill of the crew and the ruggedness of the airframe.
    Hey Rick, remember that cut on my foot? How is your reefrash?

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    Rick Rottman

    @Harold: It’s good to hear from you Harold. Not only did I have a lot more hair then, I was younger looking too. Go figure!

    There used to be a photo of AC 0248 at the top of this blog post, but it’s since disappeared. I remember a few years ago I had a problem with images on my server. I thought that I had salvaged everything. Evidently I missed this post. Anyway, I cannot find the photo that I originally used. I was able to find this though:

    http://www.markstyling.com/b52s6.htm

    AC 0248 is second from the bottom.

    It’s been a very long time since I’ve had reef-rash. Then again, there aren’t very many coral reefs in western Maryland. 🙂

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    Harold

    @Rick: I think I have a picture of 0248 somewhere, I will have too see. It sure is nice to hear from you, we sure had a good time on Guam. I do have a picture of all of us hanging out at my room right after the reef incident and we are all bandaged up, drunk, and high on painpills, haha. I hope all is well with you. Hooter

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    Harold

    I have a patch copy if any one is interested, its of the 4300PBW, also have the Republican Guard Hunters patch.

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    Tom

    Harold and Rick,
    I went to USAFA Prep with the CP from that incident with 0248. I recently re-established contact with him after 36 yrs(geez, we’re getting old). I sent him the link to this discussion.
    Tom

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    Tom

    Harold and Rick,
    My apologies, I used the incorrect terminology. I went to school with the A/C not the CP
    Tom

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    Mace:-)

    Harold and Rick,
    Hi nice site. My good and old old friend, Tom, pointed me in your direction. Tom’s stories are more interesting, trust me. He spent his entire 20 years career in Special Forces and retired as a Sergeant Major.

    Tom passed this link to me http://aces.safarikovi.org/victories/victories-iraq-gulf.war.pdf . I am not sure where Tom got the link; high don’t think it was from this site. You – all night be interested.

    You may want to take a look in order to understand my next comment; I would really like to talk to that pilot.

    Hi Bob, how are you doing?

    Mace:-)

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    Scoob

    I have video of temp repair at jeddah, I post i ton the b-52 gunner fb page or mine linked

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    Bill Cooper

    I was the Chief, Combat Intelligence for the 4300 PBW at Diego during Desert Shield/Desert Storm. I remember the night when the B-52 was hit by the HARM – Major “Mace” Mason was the AC on that mission. While it is true that “no HARM was launched at a B-52,” it is a fact that a HARM was launched at a target and, while it was not yet armed, it and the tail of that B-52 occupied the same airspace while the Buff was headed home to Diego and the HARM was headed to its target.

    I still have the unit patches and some bomb pins form 500 pounders that we dropped. What memories come flooding back from our days in tent city…

    Always remember our three comrades killed when their B-52 crashed in the Indian Ocean near Diego Garcia when they were returning from a bombing mission. They were Capt. Jeffry Jon Olson, 27, of Grand Forks, N.D.; 1st Lt. Eric D. Hedeen, 27, of Malaga, Wash., and 1st. Lt. Jorge I. Arteaga of Trumbull, Conn. I believe that Captain Olson is still listed as MIA.

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      Tony

      Hello,

      I’m currently working on a book profiling the B-52; does anyone have a photo B-52G, 58-0248 upon recovery at Jeddah that depicts the damage?

      Sincerely,

      Tony

      tcass416@yahoo.com

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    Zach Peters

    I was the gunner on 0248. Thanks Bob Deasy for clearing up some of the muddy water. Only myself, fellow crewmembers and the F-4 crewmembers really know what happenned that night. By the way, I personally spoke to the F-4 crew hours after we landed. They did “pickle off a harm in the blind” as they put it, in response to a SA-6 radar system that they were protecting us from. They were at 18,000 feet behind us and we were roughly 100-200′. I know Bob said we bottomed out the radar altimeter on several occasions after impact, less that 50′. Interesting night to say the least. Several hours of horror from minutes to target, to impact of the missle, until landing, with too many details to talk about here.

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      Brian Stiles

      Zach Peters, I have pictures of the aircraft. Once you took off from Jeddah, I was part of the combat crew on the KC135R aircraft that supported you from saudi to Guam. briankstilesatgmail. Thanks!

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    Rick Rottman

    @Zach Peters: Thanks for the info and thank you for your service. Sorry I originally wrote you locked onto the F-4. It was what we were told at the time.

    If the F-4 aircrew said they pickled the HARM in response to an SA-6’s radar, they screwed up. Before working on BUFFs, I used to work on the Wild Weasel system on the F-4G’s. There’s simply no way the system would have confused a BUFF’s tailgun radar for that of an SA-6. The frequencies are vastly different. The SA-6 has a pulsed Doppler, frequency shift type of radar. The radar used on a BUFF’s tailgun system did not.

    It’s like mixing up AM and FM radio.

    I still think the F-4 crew thought they were targeting a AAA site. If they pickled the HARM at an SA-6 site, there’s no way the missile would have instead gone after a moving, non-pulse Doppler radar.

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    Mike Shannon

    Harold,
    What can you tell me about Larry Shannon? Do you have any pictures of him from Guam? I’m his son and also in the AirForce. The reason I ask is because he passed away in Nov 08 and I do not have any military type pics.

    Thanks,
    MSgt Michael Shannon

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      Timothy Nydam

      Harold
      Sorry about your loss, Larry was my reporting official and supervisor at Loring AFB, He was a great and upstanding guy, during the entire gulf war he would not open any mail, he said it was because of all the hate mail he received when he was in Vietnam, I don’t have any photos of him, wish I did, upper ranks love talking to his metals.

      Best wish to you on behalf of your dad

      USAF retired Timothy Nydam

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        Mike Shannon

        Tim,

        Thanks for the comments about my dad. I have a pencil drawing of a B-52 from a friend of his, Harry Paige. It’s hanging in my office. I have good memories of those days at Loring as a kid (except the temperature and black flies).

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    Jerry Smith

    Its been many years, my memory is getting a bit dim, but my dim memory tells me that B-52G 248 was on of the bombers we had at Blytheville AFB during my time there from June 66 to May 69.

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    Andy Schill

    I was with the 4300 PBW in Diego. I remember seeing 58-0248 on the maintenance ramp with the patch on the tail. One of my counterparts has a picture of the patched rear end.

    I appreciate the aircrew (Bob Deasy and Zach Peters) comments on here. Most of the comments that I received about what happened to 58-0248 were not entirely accurate.

    As Bill Cooper mentioned, I constantly remember the three members of the aircrew aboard 59-2593 that lost their lives on February 3rd, 1991.

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    Glen F. Wattman

    Bob was my Radar Nav in the mid 80’s where we were both stationed at Griffiss AFB in the 668th Bomb Squadron (heavy)….

    DEASY LT. COL. ROBERT AMROSE III
    Retired U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Robert Ambrose Deasy III, 49, of Yorktown, Va., died Aug. 23 of complications following a stem cell transplant in January to treat leukemia; beloved son of Robert A. Deasy Jr. of Hampton and the late Maxine Benson Deasy; stepson of Marie Downs Deasy of Hampton; former spouse of Jane Anne Herb Deasy of Yorktown; father of Lisa Marie Deasy Campo (David) of Centreville, Va.; U.S. Marine 2nd Lt. Robert A. Deasy IV of Camp Lejeune, N.C.; Joanna Elizabeth of Norfolk, Va.; Katerina Nicole and Andrew Joseph, both of Yorktown; soul mate of Karan J. Replogle, DDS, of Yorktown; brother of Deborah Ann Deasy of McCandless and Mark Charles Deasy (Andrea) of Shaler. He also is survived by nephews Christopher, Jonathan, Brendan and Davis Deasy, and his yellow Labrador retriever, Apollo. Mr. Deasy, a Duquesne University graduate, was a B52 radar navigator and private pilot who served 20 years in the Air Force and survived a missile attack on his crew’s plane during Operation Desert Storm. Interment was private. A memorial Mass will be celebrated at 10 a.m. Oct. 3 in St. Mary of the Assumption Roman Catholic Church, 2510 Middle Road, Hampton. Memorial contributions may be made to the Connor’s Heroes Room / Bone Marrow Transplant Foundation, MCV/VCU North Hospital (Medical College of Virginia/Virginia Commonwealth University) North Hospital, 10th Floor, Room 10-013, 1300 E. Marshall St., P.O. Box 980157, Richmond, VA. 23298-0157 (Attention: Patty Viscardi).
    Send condolences at post-gazette.com/gb

    Published in Pittsburgh Post-Gazette on September 30, 2009

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    Richard lewis

    Hi guys,
    I was a security policeman from Loring stationed there at Diego from Aug 17, 1990-mar 9, 1991. I have a lot of good reading about my time at Diego…I have what I believe is a complete set of the Island News we got there. I saved them all.
    I also handed all the crew members their personal weapons at security control the night the buffs went on their first bombing raid in Jan. It was very emotional for me…a lot of the crew members were visibly shaken and some even in tears. Afterwards i got a truck and drove onto the parking apron and saluted them all off. I could only hope to see them again on return, which I did. Thank you ALL for your service, and once again…I salute you ! And I still have my Diego patch…actually had a few of them as one of our cops from loring designed it. But sold them off over time except the one in my shadowbox

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      Jeff M

      Hopefully the Security Policeman I reference in this writing isn’t YOU and if it is I apologize in advance, no hard feelings but, I have to tell you this story. On night one, our crew departed with the revolvers I had signed for (by serial number) in August at Barksdale AFB. We landed in Jeddah SA, keeping the weapons in our possession for a couple weeks, flying missions out of there. When we returned to Diego Garcia, I turned them in, in an ammo can, to the armory. I remember one night going to get our weapons before a mission and being handed an ammo can full of revolvers that were NOT the ones I originally signed for. Some TSgt or MSgt in the armory was being a jerk when I asked for OUR weapons. He said it didn’t matter. So I didn’t take the ammo can he was trying to give me. Well, it did matter because 1) we trained with each particular weapon and 2) I was responsible for six revolvers, by serial number. I told my Aircraft Commander about this and he tagged along when I returned and asked for OUR weapons. This TSgt or MSgt acted like a huge d**k to me until my A/C stepped up and straightened his a** out. Needless to say, I got the ammo can containing OUR weapons. I remember laughing my a** off at the look on this guys face. Being a Security Policeman, this guy should have known that we each were able to shoot our assigned weapons (even though it was only on one occasion) prior to the war beginning and that YES, a Gunner SIGNED a hand receipt for each of those weapons (by serial number) and was ultimately responsible for them. Maybe since Loring was the main wing at Diego Garcia, it didn’t matter which weapons were handed out because they would ultimately end up in the same place back home. The armory guys failed to consider that several crews from other bases brought their own weapons from home bases and they were mixed in with Loring’s. At some point, serial numbers wouldn’t match and yes the only enlisted guy on the bomber (a Gunner) would be held accountable. I still can’t believe, when our crew left to go home to Barksdale, I had each of the weapons I signed for in an ammo can. We rode a KC-10 to Guam and then commercial thru Hawaii, thru San Francisco, thru Dallas and then to Shreveport. I hand carried those revolvers, in the ammo can, onto every commercial plane we rode on, through each airport and customs section without ever being asked one single question about them. No way that could be done today.

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    Wes Knettle

    58-248 was at Barksdale in the 70’s. SSgt Herb Buegher was her crew chief. Her claim to history there was to return from a training sortie with 3 flaps!

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    Sam Cotongim

    I was a drug dog handler who was tasked with clearing each B-52 that returned to Castle AFB, after Desert Storm. I remember seeing the nose art for this B-52 and seeing the patched sheet metal on the rear section. The nose art read “In Harm’s Way. Courtesy of an F4” (or something very close to that). I’m not sure who told me what happened, but they said the BUFF turned on urns radar and an F-4 locked onto the bomber. It’s neat to hear exactly what happened.

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    Tim Poseley

    I actually saw this acft in Guam when it was there for repair on my way out to Diego in January 1991 – what a sight!!!

    4300 PBW ROCKED – We kicked $SS with Tanker Gas (KC-10A, March AFB)!

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    Spanky Spychaj

    I was out at Diego Garcia for six months in an Army PSE attached to 8th AF after 911. That place turned into Gilligan’s Island after two weeks. One good takeaway: Flip contractors cook a lot better than Joe.

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    Marv Engels

    Wasn’t a HARM impact.
    1. Tactical analysis. A HARM targeting an SA-6 is in the wrong frequency band period!! Tactical analysis.
    2. Physical Analysis. Frag from an enemy warhead (can’t state here) was found in the B-52 tail section.
    3. Physical Analysis. Entry and entrance hole was too small for the HARM.
    4. There was more evidence/analysis.

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      Rick Rottman

      If you’re trying to assert that an SA-6 hit aircraft 0245, you’re a little late. The Wild Weasel system (the AN/APR-38 when I worked on them from 1985-1988) on the F-4G would have identified the tail gun radar as an unknown midrange AAA radar. On the screen, it would have shown as a letter “U” with two dots over it. It would never identify it as an SA-6. Vastly different frequencies and different modulation.

      The HARM never would have made a direct hit on the B-52. They were designed to hit only ground targets. Nor were they designed to hit moving targets. Once the HARM is assigned a radar target and the missile is launched, it proceeds to the target. It homes in on the active radar emissions or it proceeds to where the radar emissions were detected before it was launched. If at any time it detects active radar signals from its assigned target, but it detects it is moving, it detonates its warhead.

      I don’t believe anyone has argued the HARM scored a direct hit to aircraft 0248. It would not be able to track and kill a moving target. Instead, it was shrapnel from the HARM detonation and penetrated the aircraft.

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    Ret. MSgt Brian Smith

    Love reading this and all the comments. Castle AFB was my first assignment as an electro-environmental specialist and was assigned to the 93rd FMS. Was just a E-3 (A1C) when the war and are response was announced. I was working with my supervisor (TSgt Carvaglia) on swing shift and we worked for 16 hours straight doing pre deployment checks on all the birds, was relieved by day shift and told to get some rest and be back in 8 hours to help finish what was left. Was to Jr. to deploy so just got to watch on CNN. I do remember when “In Harms Way” came back and was renamed and painted. I also heard several different stories so it was good to get a better understanding of what happened. Was also sad when we had to remove the nose art. It was about a year later and friendly fire was big in the news at that time. We were told it was ordered to be removed because we do not admit or celebrate friendly fire. Also same time we had to remove the Vietnam “Dragon Lady” because it wasn’t respectful. Note: had to cross train and became a Flight Engineer on the C-130 a 2 years later and ended up moving over to MC-130E in AFSOC. Flew over 2500 combat hours in Afghanistan and Iraq and told the “In Harms Way” story to one of my EWO’s. He also said it would be a very hard for the Wild weasel crew to miss identify and extremely hard for the Harm to hit or get close to the tail of the plane.

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