Tag: Steven Cohen

‘World Soccer Daily’ to return

Only a week after announcing that World Daily Soccer was coming to an immediate end, show co-hosts Steven Cohen and Kenny Hassan announced in a 15-minute teaser show that the show is returning as World Football Daily.

The new show will not appear on Sirius XM radio as World Soccer Daily did. This new show will be a subscription-based show. To listen to the show, you will have to pay $9.95 a month and listen to it either live on Ustream or on a delayed basis through the podcast.

I don’t think they’ve thought this through.

They also have the same exact problem they had with the old show. Cohen made comments about the 1989 Hillsborough disaster that enraged Liverpool FC supporters which prompted them to organize boycotts against World Soccer Daily advertisers. Some Liverpool FC supporters also made threatening statements towards Steven Cohen and reportedly even towards his step-children on Facebook. It was latter that prompted Cohen to cancel the show last week.

What changed?

Not that I understand what motivates someone to threaten someone’s step-child on Facebook, but I don’t see how simply renaming the show and going over to the subscription-base format is going to stop these people. Canceling the show last week only encouraged them and others that would use similar tactics. Steven Cohen flinched. What’s to make these people thing he won’t do it again?

I also have a problem with the name. They’re audience is overwhelmingly American. In America, the beautiful game is referred to as soccer. Now I realize that the rest of the world refers to it as football, but when you say football in America, you are referring to a game where the players wear helmets and shoulder pads and the play is continuously interrupted with commercials. That’s just the way it is. Compounding this problem is that they are starting this new show with a different name at the same time the NFL is about to begin it’s regular season. The new name will only create confusion.

With the current economic crisis, I’m not sure this is the best time to switch over to a format where listeners will have to fork over $9.95 a month to download the show. With the old show, they could download it for free. I know that I wont be paying $9.95 a month to listen to the show and I’m sure most people wont either.

Once again, I don’t think they’ve thought this through. Then again, that seems to be a running theme with the show for the past six months. It’s one thing for Steven Cohen to have his opinions about the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, it’s quite another to voice those opinions knowing how Liverpool FC supporters would react to those opinions.

My blog posts are dishonest?

I had a few people leave comments on yesterday’s post about World Soccer Daily going off the air that I felt the need to delete. To say that deleting comments here is a rare occurrence is a huge understatement.

I don’t employ comment moderation and I generally allow people to say what they want in the comment section, as long as they are the ones actually saying it. What I don’t appreciate is when someone simply pastes the words of someone else from another blog or website into my comment section.

I usually delete these comments as spam.

This morning I received an email from one of the people who left comments yesterday that I had to delete. In his message to me, he encouraged me to post his email. I’ve decided to do that as well as reply to it.

Horace Steenblatter wrote:

From: Horace Steenblatter (hsteenblatter@yahoo.co.uk)
To: rick@bentcorner.com
Date: Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 7:19 AM
Subject: Your blog posts are dishonest

You are not deleting “something negative someone on another blog wrote concerning Steven Cohen.” You have repeatedly deleted comments that I’ve left under my own name which consisted of nothing but Cohen’s own words and Chelsea FC’s response to Cohen’s words. If you were actually concerned with disseminating factual information, you would let Cohen’s words speak for themselves rather than posting dishonest information which only contain a partial account of his words. How in the world is a post about Steven Cohen’s words “not the place” for Steven Cohen’s words?

Horace, your comments were not the only ones I felt the need to delete yesterday. Not that what you were actually leaving comments. You were simply pasting statements from other blogs and websites dedicated to getting Steven Cohen “fired” from his own radio show because he shared an opinion.

That’s what radio talk show hosts do in this country. They share opinions. Nobody says that you have to agree with it. Nobody says that you have to listen to it. Nobody says you have to like it.

I’ve posted the actual quote that got Steven Cohen in trouble with Liverpool supporters. You or anyone else re-posting it in the comment section is at best, unnecessarily redundant. It’s also not even important. Cohen only voiced his opinion about an historical event. People shouldn’t be shut down or threatened with physical harm because of their opinion.

At least not in the United States of America.

Furthermore, the comment section of my blog is not for you or anyone else to treat as their own personal blog. If you want to re-post content from other blogs or other websites, get your own blog and do it there.

Do not do it here.

‘World Soccer Daily’ calls it quits

Steven Cohen, co-owner and host of World Soccer Daily, has decided to pull the plug on the popular satellite radio show dedicated to all things soccer.  From the World Soccer Daily website:

Today’s show was the last World Soccer Daily show. After almost 7 years in one form or another, WSD is going off the air. Longtime listeners can probably imagine why, but the details are in the podcast.

We would be remiss if we didn’t offer a sincere thank you to our listeners for making the show such a fantastic ride. I know I speak for everyone when I say thank you for tuning in, thank you for supporting our sponsors, and thank you for helping grow the Beautiful Game.

I guess I should have realized something was going on yesterday when I noticed all the Steven Cohen related traffic coming in yesterday, not to mention the wonderful email I received last night.

So far I’ve only listened to about half of the episode, but it’s safe to say that the death threats and the antisemitic comments directed towards Cohen have taken their toll. All because he dared to share his opinion that there was more than enough blame to go around involving the 1989 Hillsborough Disaster including some (not all) of the Liverpool fans in attendance that sad day.

Angry Liverpool fans began a crusade against Cohen and the show, going after the sponsors of the show and threatening to boycott any product advertised on the show.  A good many of the fans also threatened Cohen with bodily harm and even death.  Some even threatened Cohen’s family, including his step-children.

All for voicing his opinion.

I originally defended Cohen’s right to voice his opinion.  Mostly because I believe in free speech, but also because quotes attributed to Cohen were in fact factually wrong.  He was being accused of saying things he never said.  At first I thought it was a simple mistake on the part of the person making the claim.  I then came to the sad realization that the person making the false claim knew exactly what they were doing.

I then later criticized Steven Cohen for asking listeners for donations.  I thought it was crass to ask people who already pay Sirius XM for a monthly subscription to donate money if they enjoy listening to the show.  In hindsight, maybe I should have coughed over a few bucks.  Cohen has said the reason he’s canceling the show is because of the threats, but I imagine it’s hard to make money doing a radio show without any sponsors, though the show did have at least some sponsors.  It’s not like they were running public service announcements during their breaks.

UpdateFeel free to leave a comment, but if you only want to anonymously paste something negative someone on another blog wrote concerning Steven Cohen, don’t bother. It will be deleted. This is not the place for such things.

I get email

Occasionally people read something I’ve written and feel moved to email me about. Here’s an email someone just sent me:

from: Michael Elmore (elmoremj@googlemail.com)
to: rick@bentcorner.com
date: Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:15 PM
subject: Steve “Scum” Cohen

Why do you have so many posts defending Steve Cohen, what he said was clearly out of order and yet you continue to try and justify his statements. You are just as much a scum bag as him and without being blasphemes I have to say you need to find new friends other than the wretched Cohen who spouts evil from his putrid mouth!!!

For the record, I haven’t written a blog post “defending” Steven Cohen since May 2. I’ve since blogged about the controversy, but not to defend Cohen. In fact, my last blog post mentioning Cohen was to criticize him for asking listeners for monetary donations.

And for that I get called a scum bag? Michael Elmore has a point. If you are going to spout evil, you really should do it from a putrid mouth.

I once heard the origin of the term “scum bag.” It was pretty disgusting.

World Soccer Daily asks listeners for donations

Though I earlier defended Steven Cohen for comments he made about the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, I cannot defend what he is doing now. He is asking listeners of World Soccer Daily to give him money in the form of donations.

From the Help World Soccer Daily page on Fundable:

WSD is the only daily football/soccer show in America. The 7 year old caller-driven show deals with football around the world, especially the Premier League, MLS, and the US national team. WSD also has daily guests from around the globe, and correspondents in the major countries or continents of the game.

Recently a small group of people who disagree with some of the opinions stated by WSD hosts have decided to launch a smear campaign against the sponsors and public in order to get the show shut down. While they are welcome to decide for themselves whether to listen to the show or not, they are attempting to decide for everyone else by targeting advertisers of WSD. This is America; we do not approve of people who elect themselves as the moral voice for everyone else, especially when said people who aren’t even members of this country. If you don’t like what is said, you are always welcome to change the channel, but you’re not allowed to mute the voice.

World Soccer Daily is the fans [sic] show, and the fans can play a part beyond their welcome participation. A donation to WSD goes directly to keeping WSD on the air, and a percentage also goes to the Hillsborough Justice Campaign.

I pay to listen to World Soccer Daily. The show is on Sirius XM Radio every week day from 1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m. Sirius XM Radio is a paid, subscriber based radio service. I pay a monthly fee to listen to shows on XM Sirius Radio, including World Soccer Daily. Asking me to donate money to a sports talk show I already pay for is more than a little crass.

It’s embarrassing.

Steven Cohen needs to figure out how to get his advertisers back, not hit the listeners up for a handout. It’s not like these advertisers really have a lot of options when it comes to advertising to an American audience for soccer related products. If they want to advertise to American soccer fans, where are they going to go?

The last thing he needs to be doing is asking listeners for a handout.

Checking in on some of the Liverpool FC fan forums

I wrote a few days ago about the Liverpool Football Club posting a statement on their official website condemning the statements made by Steven Cohen, a radio talk show host here in the United States, 38 days after the fact.  What I thought was remarkable was not that they waited so long to respond to this controversy, but that they did not address the death threats and other assorted hate speech coming from Liverpool FC supporters.

Someone today left a comment in the comment section of that post claiming, among other things, that Liverpool FC supporter groups have been denouncing this type of speech, but that fact is getting ignored by everyone.

I found this to be quite remarkable because it’s simply not true.

If you go to public Liverpool FC fan sites today,  you will find all sorts of things being spewed by Liverpool FC supports directed against Steven Cohen.

For example, LFC Online.  It claims to be the “longest-running independent” Liverpool FC website on the Internet.  It has a popular public message forum.  Here are only some of the comments posted there concerning Steven Cohen:

What I find interesting about these comments is that the forum administrator allows them to remain. One might think that if they didn’t agree with the sentiment of the comments, a responsible administrator would simply delete them.

The fact that they remain for the whole world to see says quite a lot.

A whole 38 days later, Liverpool FC condemns comments made on a popular radio talk show

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From the official Liverpool Football Club website:

Liverpool Football Club totally condemns the comments regarding the Hillsborough disaster made by the radio and TV broadcaster Steve Cohen.

“Mr Cohen has obviously never taken the time to read the Taylor Report which stated clearly that ticketless fans were not a contributory factor or responsible for the events of that day.

“To use the 20th anniversary of the disaster to repeat false claims about Liverpool fans (which Mr Cohen first broadcast and then apologised [sic] for in 2006) is even more unacceptable.

The statement is really quite remarkable. Not because of the amount of time it took the team to issue a response, but because of the fact that the Liverpool FC organization chose not to address the death threats and other assorted comments made against Steven Cohen by Liverpool FC supporters.

That’s really quite unfortunate. The organization, in my opinion, missed a golden opportunity to help ratchet down the over-the-top, visceral behavior coming from some of their supporters. If anything, this statement from the team 38 days after the fact will only help fan the flames.

They should have denounced the death threats.

Steven Cohen apologizes

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At the beginning of the second hour of today’s Word Soccer Daily, co-host Steven Cohen read an apology for this recent comments concerning the 1989 Hills­bor­ough dis­as­ter. He also posted the apology on the Word Soccer Daily website.

It reads:

First of all I would like to apologize for comments made on World Soccer Daily on Monday April 13th that referred back to an event from April 1989. My apology is directed at any and all people whose feelings have been hurt and people who have had awful memories and scars re-opened. The apology is heartfelt, genuine and sincere.

There are some I suspect who will look at this apology with a cynical eye and of course you are entitled to see it as you like.

We are all football fans, we are all passionate football fans and the events that I am referring to could have happened to any club, in any sport, in any country at any public gathering. This is proved by events in the Ivory Coast recently as well as in South America, Ghana, the old Soviet Union etc …

Let me continue by saying that I came to this country 27 years ago, I believe in this country and what it stands for and most importantly I believe in the freedom of speech, opinion and expression and hold these values and freedoms as being amongst the most treasured of all freedoms. I wore the uniform of the US Army for 4 years between 1982 and 1986 because these freedoms are worth defending and worth fighting for. While there are many people in this world who’s views make my blood boil I would fight to defend their right to say what they believe.

I recognize that with my position as one of the hosts of a popular radio show I have a responsibility to my audience and perhaps the radio is not the ideal place to express every opinion and every belief I have if the net result is many people being hurt and upset.

By the same token those who use a keyboard and computer to exercise their own freedom of speech, opinion and expression also have a responsibility. They have a responsibility not to sensationalize comments made and twist them for their maximum appeal especially when this is done only for their own commercial benefit and clearly with malice intended.

Finally, to those out there in the United States who have hidden behind computers and monitors to send correspondence including too many death threats to count know that your actions and words hurt this game in this country more than help it. This game has yet to find a solid and guaranteed footing in the American sporting landscape and the baggage that this game carries with it from the past is only re-enforced and emphasized by threats of violence and death.

Lastly the subjects being addressed in this statement will never be discussed on this show again unless it is in a open forum or debate where both sides view points can be addressed and considered.

I for one hope this puts an end to this whole “controversy”.

NPR on the Steven Cohen Hillsborough controversy

logo_npr_125NPR’s All Things Considered had a segment on Friday’s show about the recent controversy surrounding comments made by World Soccer Daily co-host Steven Cohen concerning the 1989 Hillsborough disaster. In the segment, they play that actual clip from World Soccer Daily that started the controversy, as well as comments made by blogger Christopher Harris (The Gaffer) of the popular soccer blog EPL Talk.

Harris comments on the death threats Cohen has received and says that he doesn’t condone them and finds them “equally despicable”. The inference is that threatening a man’s life over something he’s said is somehow equal to Cohen sharing his opinions on Hillsborough. That probably tells you everything you need to know about this drummed up controversy. How anyone can equate death threats to someone saying that at least partial blame for the 1989 Hillsborough disaster on drunk, out of control fans, is beyond me.

1989 U.K. Soccer Disaster Still Stirs Emotions [3 min 50 sec]

The New York Times weighs in on the Steven Cohen controversy

Once again, the mainstream news media has weighed in on the recent controversy surrounding World Soccer Daily co-host Steven Cohen. Once again, they’ve come done on the side of Cohen.

Imagine that.

Jack Bell from the New York Times soccer blog Goal has written about the recent controversy surrounding Word Soccer Daily co-host Steven Cohen.

From the article:

One can argue with the appeal of a TV chat show like “Fox Football Fone-In” on the Fox Soccer Channel, but what is hard to argue with is the right of one of the co-hosts, Steven Cohen, to state an opinion without becoming the victim of opprobrium, ugly scorn, death threats and vitriolic taunts.

Cohen’s transgression? During a call on April 13 from a Liverpool fan discussing the club’s past success, Cohen (a Chelsea supporter from north London who has been in the United States for nearly 30 years) said “what about the other side of your history,” and went on to discuss the club’s and its fans’ involvement in two of the worst stadium incidents in soccer history: Heysel in Brussels on May, 29 1985, and the Hillsborough disaster in Sheffield, England, on April 15, 1989.

I can only image that Liverpool supporters will now come out of the woodwork and try their best to get advertisers to pull their ads from the New York Times and to get Jack Bell fired.

Defending Steven Cohen

steven-cohenSteven Cohen, co-host of World Soccer Daily, a satellite radio show dedicated to all things soccer, is in a bit of hot water over some things he said on a recent show. On an April 13 episode, while taking phone calls from listeners, Cohen commented on the 1989 Hillsborough Disaster.

It was a horrific event where 96 soccer fans were crushed to death at an FC Cup semi-final match between between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest.

So what exactly did Cohen say? From EPL Talk:

“People showing up without ticket, hell bent in getting into somewhere where they shouldn’t be going because they don’t have tickets, is the root cause of [the Hillsborough Disaster].”

Except this is not what Cohen actually said.  The quote is incorrect.  The above is a partial quote about the 23 fans that died in a similar fashion in the Ivory Coast at a World Cup qualifier. The correct quote should read:

“The thing is, the 23 that died in the Ivory Coast, in my opinion, the police were absolutely had something to do with it.  At the end of the day, people showing up without ticket, hell bent in getting into somewhere where they shouldn’t be going because they don’t have tickets, is the root cause of it in my opinion.

Cohen went on to say more.  Also from EPL Talk:

“I’m yet to read anybody write in this weekend’s Sunday papers in England, where they’re all doing big commemorations about the 96, and why we should never forget and how it’s changed the game, nobody discusses the 6,000 to 8,000 who showed up without tickets and my argument has always been, if those people don’t show up, this never happens.”

This too is not an accurate quote, but in this case, the misquoting does not change what Cohen said.  His point is that Liverpool fans showed up at the game without tickets.  The episode can be downloaded from iTunes.  The comments on Hillsborough begin around the 1 hour, 13 minute mark.

People who have a problem with what Cohen said seem bothered the most by Cohen’s opinion that  “6,000 to 8,000″ Liverpool fans showed up at the game without tickets.  The Taylor Report, the official inquiry into the Hillsborough Disaster, found this not to be the case.

What bothers me the most about all this is that a group identifying themselves as the The North American Liverpool Supporters are trying to get those that advertise on World Soccer Daily to drop the show.  They sending form letters to advertisers, urging advertisers to drop the show. An excerpt:

This is not a free speech issue. Mr. Cohen has every right to say what he wants on air within FCC regulations. However he has crossed the line as far as we are concerned. So he is free to say whatever he wants but with free speech one also needs to understand there are consequences to ones action. The potential boycott is one of those consequences.

Except it is a free speech issue and there are no FCC regulations concerning satellite talk radio. Cohen stated over and over again that he was only stating his opinion of what happened that tragic day in Hillsborough. The anonymous members of The North American Liverpool Supporters are the ones that have crossed the line by contacting sponsors to get them to stop advertising on World Soccer Daily.

It’s a dick move.

Is Cohen wrong about the 6,000 to 8,000 ticketless Liverpool fans? Probably, but that shouldn’t matter. Cohen is a radio talk show host. His job is to say things. Sometimes those things are going to be wrong. Sometimes those things are going to be controversial. Sometimes those things are going to be stupid.  If you don’t like what someone on the radio is saying, don’t listen.  Just because you don’t like what someone says on the radio doesn’t mean you have a right to get someone permanently silenced.  It’s wrong.