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Mike Pence, Republican representative from Indiana and the chairman of the House Republican Conference was on Fox News Sunday this morning and made the claim that last night’s vote for health care reform will bring about the end of the Democratic party.
In about a year.
From Fox News:
“I think the American people are deeply frustrated with a liberal establishment in Washington, D.C. that is ignoring their will,” Pence said. “If Democrats keep ignoring the American people, their party’s going to be history in about a year.”
Personally, I get somewhat frustrated with the liberal establishment in Washington D.C., but that’s because it’s not liberal enough. Something tells me that’s not what Rep. Pence was talking about. I think Pence is confused and believes that the uninformed, poorly educated people that scream and shout at town hall meetings demanding that the government keep it’s hands of Medicare, represent the entire country.
Thankfully, they don’t. Not all of us spend our afternoons throwing teabags into plastic wading pools.
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Ryan
/ November 8, 2009If Republicans can mutilate a country the way they did for eight years and still have a foothold in America, than no political party can simply die off.
Dennis G.
/ November 9, 2009Both U.S. major parties have claimed at times the other one is finished since they were invented.
Funny isn’t it. Some conservatives have railed against Medicare’s cost for years and many have declared it a failed socialist experiment that is bankrupting the United States.
So how many Republican Presidential candidates have you seen since the beginning of it in 1965 running on a platform of doing away with Medicare? Now you don’t even see Republican congressmen nor senators running on a vow to do away with Medicare and why because so many of the people that vote for them are older people and would dump them in a heart beat for a claim like that. However they do try to cut medicare and often do.
If you read the New Testament Jesus was clearly a socialist by what he said and did but many conservatives whether Christian or not seem to subscribe to Social Darwinism, a philosophy of survival of the fittest by their actions.
Ryan
/ November 9, 2009@Dennis G.: In all fairness, Christians have been picking and choosing which parts of the Bible they feel like following for some time now.
Lee B.
/ November 9, 2009In my little Village of 1,200 residents, I am a Village Trustee and Deputy Mayor. We have republicans and democrats on the board (I claim independence, but was once a registered republican). At our local level of government, there is absolutely no difference in ideology. The “label” only applies to voting in the bigger races. At our level, we are a small group of people fending off ridiculous demands from our county, state, and federal governments that constantly hammer us with unfunded mandates with very little in return.
At the state level (NY) it matters not who is in charge. Our current democratic-led senate is corrupt and criminal. But our state AG will be running for Governor, and so will not investigate the blatant criminal conduct that has occurred in the Senate, as he won’t hassle those who he may have to work with in a year.
When the republicans have been in charge, there has been no fundamental difference. Same crooks, preaching a different message that rings just as hollow. Both groups constantly vote themselves raises, do little of substance beyond nanny-type “you will live your life as I say” legislation, raise taxes, and pander to special interest groups. They both spew vitriolic, divisive, mean-spirited drivel with every campaign, and the truth gets lost very early in any process they are a part of.
I see a lot of this at the federal level- occasionally each party comes back to it’s core ideology, but collectively our system has become a pretty nasty framework of wealthy, hypocritical truth-stretchers that are more than happy to bend and break laws and then forgive each other when caught. How anyone can praise one party over another anymore is beyond me.
After health care reform, I’d love to see what will never happen- political process reform. Term limits. No lobbyists- none. More than two parties. The ability for the unrich non-lawyers to rise to federal office and then forced to go home one or two terms later. The decoupling of Hollywood from DC. And a bar set so people as ugly as Pelosi have to stay behind a curtain when they talk.
Allright- that last part was just mean and childish, but you get the point. The current two-party system, with the two parties we have to choose from, sucks.
Rick Rottman
/ November 9, 2009@Lee B.: Ideally, political finance reform should have been the first thing, not health care. Because of the way our political system is set up, a system were our elected officials are constantly looking for a handout, it makes it really hard to get anything done.
If it was up to me, I’d ban all political ads on TV, radio, or in print. If they can ban the words “shit” or “cock” from being on the TV, they can ban political ads.
Lee B.
/ November 9, 2009@Rick Rottman: Witness!