SubscribeRepublican Representative Virginia Foxx from the fifth district of North Carolina spoke on the House floor and said that we have more to fear from health care reform than we do terrorists. Watch it:
If she said that not having access to quality, affordable health care was more of a threat than some radical Islamic fundamentalist hiding in a cave in Pakistan, I might actually agree with her. She didn’t say that. She’s not telling people to be afraid of not having access to quality health care, she is telling people to be afraid of health care reform because it will somehow infringe on our freedoms.
I don’t really understand people that actually encourage others to be scared. As an elected official, she really should be doing the complete opposite.
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Ryan
/ November 3, 2009I’m sure in the looney, imaginary world the GOP lives in many simple things such as creating affordable healthcare can be scary.
Lee B.
/ November 3, 2009Ryan- seems like everyone in DC at the federal level is living in an imaginary, loony world. It is certainly not the exclusive domain of the Republicans. Both sides fear-monger, exaggerate, spread misinformation and half-truths, and have collectively become something very weird and quite frightening.
Did you notice that the bunch of lawyers that run the country ignored the topic of torte reform?
Rick Rottman
/ November 3, 2009Tort reform? That’s not going to fix anything. Medical malpractice accounts for less then 2% of health care costs. Republicans like to bring up tort reform because they fantasise about a world where the little people wont be able to sue corporations when they have been wronged in some way.
Alex
/ November 3, 2009Here is a fact for my American friends.
Canadians have some concerns with their universal healthcare system. However don’t be fooled. I have never, ever heard anyone say they would prefer an American style for profit system. Those are the facts. We like our system but we want it to be better.
Don’t be fooled by any Republican speaking on our behalf.
Take care
Alex
Lee B.
/ November 3, 20092% of billions still equals a shitload, if my math is right. And it’s not health CARE that needs reform- we have brilliant doctors and great nurses (I am married to one)- it’s health INSURANCE- big differences and is part of the problem. Depending on who’s talking, the two concepts are either mutually excluded or all jumbled up.
Ryan
/ November 3, 2009And therein lies our problem here in America, as long as there’s money to made on healthcare, companies will do whatever they can to improve their profits. A healthcare system cannot exist that strives to provide the best possible care when the people running that system are striving to maximize their revenue. People’s lives are less important to them than their profits.
Rick Rottman
/ November 4, 2009If the problem is that one of insurance, then a robust public option would be a good idea, right?
Lee B.
/ November 4, 2009Is not black and white. Public option- yes. Public option created by clueless bureaucrats that get it wrong- no. Get the right subject matter experts together to craft the plan, and make the details of the plan known before asking for approval. Sounds too simple, doesn’t it? Leave it strictly to congress and lobbyists who already are perverting any attempt at reform and we’ll be just as screwed, but it’ll be in a different position.
Rick Rottman
/ November 4, 2009How about something like Medicare? It’s a highly popular and efficient health insurance run by the Federal government.
Lee B.
/ November 4, 2009The devil is in the details, as they say. If the Medicare model could be made to work on a grand scale, and left unf*&cked as it is shaped, great. My skepticism comes from the fact that the same people trying to define what reform should look like are largely ethically and morally challenged, have long lost touch with middle-class America (if they ever were in touch), and have bungled an awful lot lately while driving the federal deficit into the stratosphere. At the same time, I’d like to see the same goal as you achieved. But I firmly believe we can do worse than we are doing now, so caution and quality checks are needed.
Rick Rottman
/ November 4, 2009@Lee B.: Who exactly that is trying to define what reform should look like do you have issues with? To me, it’s not so much a battle of personalities, but of the end result. There’s certain things I’d like to see that we don’t currently have. These include, but are not limited to:
1. End discrimination against people with preexisting conditions.
2. Stop allowing insurance companies to drop people when they are sick.
3. Cap out-of-pocket costs to patients so getting sick doesn’t mean a person has to declare bankruptcy.
4. Offer non-profit, national health care insurance (Medicare for everyone, Public Option, etc.) to ALL Americans so the health insurance cartel has real competition.
Out of all these things, the last one is the most important. If we got the last one, the others would take care of themselves.
Lee B.
/ November 4, 2009Rick- I’m on your side. What you want, I’d like to see, too. And even though Joe Wilson is a bit of a tool, I like what he’s saying- make congress join the public plan, too. When it’s something congress is willing to use, you know that it is finally ready for you and I. But you’ll never see that.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/04/wilson-proposes-forcing-congress-government-health-insurance-plan/
Rick Rottman
/ November 4, 2009@Lee B.: But many of them are already enjoying the benefits of a public option:
http://weiner.house.gov/news_display.aspx?id=1364
Lee B.
/ November 4, 2009yes- but not the same one you’ll be offered at SUBSTANTIALLY higher price.
Rick Rottman
/ November 4, 2009@Lee B.: Well, yeah, sure because if you are 65 years old or disabled, it’s free. Personally, my first choice for creating a public option would be to allow all Americans to buy into Medicare.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/09-9
Lee B.
/ November 4, 2009It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out. I hope whatever the outcome, it is agreeable to your needs without requiring us to sell what’s left of our financial soul as a country to China.
:)