As far as commisions go i spoke to my buddy again, who works for Warner bros and he said, QUOTE:
We’re not going after freelancers for doing private commissions if they don’t infringe on DC’s trademark. it’s something that doesn’t cost us anything, They’ve been doing it since the industry has been around and If we did it would cause alot of undue tension with the freelance community.

Do you honestly expect anyone to believe you? You are clearly lying. Not only do I not believe a buddy of yours that works for Warner Bros told you that they don’t care if artists reproduce their copyrighted protected properties, I do not believe you even have a buddy.

I’m having a hard time following this (argument? discussion?), so I think I’ll just bail out. You guys lost me at the bible talk.

It was something somebody on the Newsarama thread said about Bibles. Jamal said that when a Bible is sold in a store, the publisher of that Bible receives a royalty payment. That’s really the opposite way royalties work. Publishers don’t get paid royalties. They are the ones paying royalties to whoever owns the rights to what was published. In this case, the Bible. The whole point was worthless because the Bible is in the public domain. I pointed this out and Jamal copied & pasted something about women buying purple Bibles to match their dresses. Weird.

It was then I decided to bail on the Newsarama discussion because it was pointless.

That is in no way a defense of those same corporations ruining comic books.

And scroll up, Paul. You started it.

So you see Rick ,in his zeal to find someone to hang his anger on picked a guy who out flat says “If they ask me to stop I’ll stop” Doesn’t sound like a hypocrite to me.

I don’t have any zeal and I’m not angry. Frankly I don’t really care what it sounds like to you because you are an idiot.

Oh and I loved where you were proven wrong also about Bible sales and royalties, too. I’m guessing you don’t work in publishing.

Proven wrong? Did you even bother to read it? Royalties are never paid for intellectual property that is in the public domain. This includes The Bible. Royalties also never go to the publisher as Jamal stated. Royalties are payments that the publisher pays to the owner of the intellectual property for the right to publish.

one of the things Rick has left out of his various replies to this post is something Igle himself said on Newsarama.”

Left out? My intention was not to recreate the entire thread over on Newsarama. I was only commenting on something said by Jamal Igle. I thought the comment by Jamal that people who BitTorrent comics should be prosecuted was an incredible thing to say considering the fact that he himself breaks copyright laws.

And the part where Jamal says that he will stop infringing on DC Comic’s intellectual property if they ask him is a little ridiculous. DC Comics has the following posted on their website:

COPYRIGHT AND TRADEMARK NOTICES
Except as noted, all books, titles, characters, character names, slogans, logos, and related indicia are trademarks of and copyright DC Comics and/or WildStorm Productions, an imprint of DC Comics.

Following the above statement is a list of all of the exceptions going to individuals or companies that own at least some of the rights pertaining to various characters. I took a look at the list and I didn’t see Jamal’s name anywhere. He appears to not own any rights to the intellectual property he uses when he does commissions. Not that I ever thought he did.

Jamal Igle saying he will stop doing commissions based on DC properties if they ask him is as ridiculous as Z-Cult FM saying they won’t host trackers of copyrighted comics if the publishers send them a letter. Since the publishers have already announced that they and they alone own the rights to the characters, they don’t need to tell anyone NOT to use them.

As much as some people may not like it, Marvel, DC, image and Dark Horse make it possible for small press creators to get their product out there and be seen. Most retailers won’t touch an indy book because they can’t afford it, the ones who do have to have “corporate” comics in their stores to get people through the door to support the indy titles that are available.

Sloofus_ And you’d be in the right to prosecute an artist for copyright infringement: one of the things Rick has left out of his various replies to this post is something I gle himself said on Newsarama:
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Originally Posted by Bent Corner
Should comic book artists that reproduce copyrighted material for sale at comic book conventions also be prosecuted? Very few of them actually own the rights to the material they are reproducing. Many of them charge customers hundreds of dollars to reproduce artwork that features characters owned by Marvel, DC, etc. Not only do they do commission work of protected material, some even go as far as to sell mass produced prints of the same artwork. The last comic book convention I attended featured many artists selling prints like this.

Unlike the people that break copyright laws by participating in comic book file sharing, many comic book artists are profiting monetarily with their copyright infringement. I have no idea how much money changes hands at comic book conventions for reproduced copyrighted material done by comic book artists, but I would have to assume that the figure is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. That’s money the owners of the copyrighted material never see. That’s money that could be used to purchase licensed material in the dealer’s room.

No, because unlike scanning a comic book, it’s original material, it’s good PR for the companies and the convention organizers because it gets a lot of fans to come to conventions in the first place. The Key difference is that as Colleen has said , is that comic book companies don’t have a problem with convention sketches. Now you may say that hypocritical but it’s not. It’s up to the discretion of the companies. Now, If I were sent a cease and desist from DC that said no more con sketches of their characters, I would respect that. I have more than enough of my own ideas to draw from without doing commissions of their characters. Damn, guaranteed though the moment that happened another company would step up and say”SKetch our characters, we don’t care what you do”
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