Friday, October 12, 2007
CNBC explains to Ron Paul admirers why they removed poll
After a recent CNBC Republican candidate debate, CNBC threw a poll of on their website asking readers who they thought won the debate. Ron Paul supporters responded by flooding the poll with votes for Ron Paul in an attempt to skew the poll’s results. Ron Paul won by a whopping 75%. CNBC responded by removing the poll from the website. This from the CNBC website:
And the computer logs showed the poll had been hit with traffic from Ron Paul chat sites. I learned other Internet polls that night had been hit in similar fashion. Congratulations. You folks are obviously well-organized and feel strongly about your candidate and I can’t help but admire that.
What’s to admire? I didn’t realize that being “well-organized” and “feeling strongly about something” were necessarily traits to admire. Nazis were well-organized. Nazis felt strongly about something. Should they be admired too? Not that I am comparing Ron Paul fanboys to Nazis. Even though at least some neo-Nazis are Ron Paul supporters and it seems that at least some of the people helping to flood these online polls in Ron Paul’s favor have goose-stepped over from antisemitic white supremest websites.
What about substance? Having fans on the Internet that spam online polls and vote for every Ron Paul story on Digg aren’t things to brag about.
Also from the CNBC website:
But you also ruined the purpose of the poll. It was no longer an honest “show of hands” — it suddenly was a platform for beating the Ron Paul drum. That certainly wasn’t our intention and certainly doesn’t serve our readers … at least those who aren’t already in the Ron Paul camp.
I don’t know what Ron Paul’s über fanboys expect when they do stuff like this. Sure, they may get some momentary personal pleasure by throwing the results of an online poll, but all they are really doing is making their candidate look bad. Manipulating Internet polls just makes their candidate look weird. That’s something Ron Paul doesn’t need any help with.
He already has that down pat.
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This article is absurd. We all know that the polls can’t be “hacked”. There are ways to log IP’s and synchronous traffic. If it were hacked they could prove it. The “traffic” the article talks about is perfectly fine. Why is it wrong for someone to post a link in a chat so people can go vote. Why is it that people who admit how popular Ron Paul is on the internet think it is impossible that he win an internet poll ? He has raised more money in Q3 than McCain and he raised more than Romney ( had romney not been using his own money in his campaign fund) http://www.startribune.com/10215/story/1467461.html (romney)
Ron Paul is popular - live with it !
I like how you compare Ron Paul to Hitler. He is Hitler, following that stupid old piece of paper like it was Hitler’s Myne Kempf.
Look at what happened to Hitler in the end…I admire you for bringing this to our attention.
I’ll let them know over at http://www.fredthompsonforum.com that you have the best anti-paul blog on the Internet.
Also, keep up the use of bringing up white supremists supporting Ron Paul. We’ve gotten a lot of traction from that in some other sites.
Why is it that the blogger feels so threatened by Dr. Paul? You can feel the hatred and anger in the way he writes. This blogger is a disturbed fellow. He is, apparently, so accustomed to being sodomized by the powers that be, that he hasen’t even noticed the loss of his Liberty’s and his ability to think freely. Or, perhaps he is just not bright enough to realize he is backing the wrong horse. Ignorant with a stretched out rectum is no way to go through life son….Try to think before you type.
Yup, what RetroFit said.
What is it about Ron Paul that renders some folks incapable of rational thought?
You’d think a reprieve from rampant governmental theft would be a good thing.
Say, you’re not a social parasite sucking off the public teat, are you? What do you think you stand to lose from a Ron Paul presidency?
By the way, the Nazi were National socialists. Ron Paul and his fans are anything but.
Please do some more research. The truth is out there, just not at CNBC.
It’s not wrong per say, it just doesn’t mean anything. The point of the CNBC poll was to find out what their viewers thought of the debates. What they noticed from incoming traffic that people voting on the poll were being directed the the various Ron Paul websites.
Did any of these people even watch the debates?
Were any of them CNBC viewers?
Because CNBC suspected that the results were being rigged they removed the poll. IMHO, supporters of Ron Paul ought to get used to it.
I didn’t compare Ron Paul to Hitler. Go back and actually read what I wrote.
That is a fake Fred Thompson website run by Ron Paul supporters. This is exactly why people don’t take Ron Paul or his candidacy very seriously. Ron Paul is a Libertarian pretending to be a Republican. Ron Paul followers run a Fred Thompson website pretending to be Thompson followers.
I was simply pointing out a fact. It’s a fact that one of the websites dirrecting members to go and rigg online polls is a white supremist website. If you don’t like the fact that Ron Paul is the canidate of choice with neonazis, take it up with them.
And you my friend are just the type of Ron Paul follower that will drive away more voters then attract. You might be surprised to learn that its possible to discuss politics without having to discuss sodomy and/or the stretching out of one’s rectum.
No, I’m lactate intolerant.
I think RetroFit is just trying to get a rise out of people here. His post doesn’t actually address anything relevant, like the fact that CNBC removed the poll because it became biased and no longer relevant.
It would be like going to a Star Trek convention and polling them about which was better- Star Wars or Star Trek. The results would be hopelessly skewed because the sample would be tainted.
I also like how Retro refers to that idiot as "Dr. Paul." Is that to lend him credence? Then I’m Schooly G, Esquire, MD, PhD, DDT, and FU.
Remember how 2000 ended, everybody- the Supreme Court appointed a President because of fuck nuggets like Ron Paul and their brain-dead supporters.
I believe that its pretty obvious that all "public opinion polls" are skewed.
For instance, if you conduct a landline telephone poll during the middle of the afternoon on a workday, you are only going to get the opinion of people with landlines who are home during the middle of the day.
If you conduct an internet poll, you are going to get the opinion of people who use the internet.
Isn’t it reasonable to assume that the other canidates’ supporters had equal opportunity to organize and "flood" the poll with their own opinions?
Isn’t this the equivilant of "turning out" your supporters for an ellection? Isn’t the ability to get your supporters to the polls a traditional guage used to judge campaign strength?