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	<title>Comments on: CNBC explains to Ron Paul admirers why they removed poll</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://bentcorner.com/2007/10/cnbc-explains-to-ron-paul-admirers-why-they-removed-poll/#comment-1076</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that its pretty obvious that all &#34;public opinion polls&#34; are skewed.&#160;
 For instance, if you conduct a landline telephone poll during the middle of the afternoon on a workday, you are only going to get the opinion of people with landlines who are home during the middle of the day. &#160;

 If you conduct an internet poll, you are going to get the opinion of people who use the internet.&#160;

 Isn't it reasonable to assume that the other canidates' supporters had equal opportunity to organize and &#34;flood&#34; the poll with their own opinions?&#160;

 Isn't this the equivilant of &#34;turning out&#34; your supporters for an ellection?&#160; Isn't the ability to get your supporters to the polls a traditional guage used to judge campaign strength?&#160;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that its pretty obvious that all &quot;public opinion polls&quot; are skewed.&nbsp;<br />
 For instance, if you conduct a landline telephone poll during the middle of the afternoon on a workday, you are only going to get the opinion of people with landlines who are home during the middle of the day. &nbsp;</p>
<p> If you conduct an internet poll, you are going to get the opinion of people who use the internet.&nbsp;</p>
<p> Isn&#8217;t it reasonable to assume that the other canidates&#8217; supporters had equal opportunity to organize and &quot;flood&quot; the poll with their own opinions?&nbsp;</p>
<p> Isn&#8217;t this the equivilant of &quot;turning out&quot; your supporters for an ellection?&nbsp; Isn&#8217;t the ability to get your supporters to the polls a traditional guage used to judge campaign strength?&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Schooly</title>
		<link>http://bentcorner.com/2007/10/cnbc-explains-to-ron-paul-admirers-why-they-removed-poll/#comment-1084</link>
		<dc:creator>Schooly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think RetroFit is just trying to get a rise out of people here. His post doesn't actually address anything relevant, like the fact that CNBC removed the poll because it became biased and no longer relevant.

It would be like going to a Star Trek convention and polling them about which was better- Star Wars or Star Trek. The results would be hopelessly skewed because the sample would be tainted.

I also like how Retro refers to that idiot as &#34;Dr. Paul.&#34; Is that to lend him credence? Then I'm Schooly G, Esquire, MD, PhD, DDT, and FU.

Remember how 2000 ended, everybody- the Supreme Court appointed a President because of fuck nuggets like Ron Paul and their brain-dead supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think RetroFit is just trying to get a rise out of people here. His post doesn&#8217;t actually address anything relevant, like the fact that CNBC removed the poll because it became biased and no longer relevant.</p>
<p>It would be like going to a Star Trek convention and polling them about which was better- Star Wars or Star Trek. The results would be hopelessly skewed because the sample would be tainted.</p>
<p>I also like how Retro refers to that idiot as &quot;Dr. Paul.&quot; Is that to lend him credence? Then I&#8217;m Schooly G, Esquire, MD, PhD, DDT, and FU.</p>
<p>Remember how 2000 ended, everybody- the Supreme Court appointed a President because of fuck nuggets like Ron Paul and their brain-dead supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://bentcorner.com/2007/10/cnbc-explains-to-ron-paul-admirers-why-they-removed-poll/#comment-1083</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Say, you’re not a social parasite sucking off the public teat, are you? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, I'm lactate intolerant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Say, you’re not a social parasite sucking off the public teat, are you? </p>
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<p>No, I&#8217;m lactate intolerant.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://bentcorner.com/2007/10/cnbc-explains-to-ron-paul-admirers-why-they-removed-poll/#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;He is, apparently, so accustomed to being sodomized by the powers that be, that he hasen’t even noticed the loss of his Liberty’s and his ability to think freely.  Or, perhaps he is just not bright enough to realize he is backing the wrong horse.  Ignorant with a stretched out rectum is no way to go through life son.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And you my friend are just the type of Ron Paul follower that will drive away more voters then attract.  You might be surprised to learn that its possible to discuss politics without having to discuss sodomy and/or the stretching out of one's rectum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He is, apparently, so accustomed to being sodomized by the powers that be, that he hasen’t even noticed the loss of his Liberty’s and his ability to think freely.  Or, perhaps he is just not bright enough to realize he is backing the wrong horse.  Ignorant with a stretched out rectum is no way to go through life son.</p>
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<p>And you my friend are just the type of Ron Paul follower that will drive away more voters then attract.  You might be surprised to learn that its possible to discuss politics without having to discuss sodomy and/or the stretching out of one&#8217;s rectum.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://bentcorner.com/2007/10/cnbc-explains-to-ron-paul-admirers-why-they-removed-poll/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I like how you compare Ron Paul to Hitler. &lt;/blockquote&gt;I didn't compare Ron Paul to Hitler.  Go back and actually read what I wrote.
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’ll let them know over at &lt;a href="http://www.fredthompsonforum.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.fredthompsonforum.com&lt;/a&gt; that you  have the best anti-paul blog on the Internet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;That is a fake Fred Thompson website run by Ron Paul supporters.  This is exactly why people don't take Ron Paul or his candidacy very seriously.  Ron Paul is a Libertarian pretending to be a Republican.  Ron Paul followers run a Fred Thompson website pretending to be Thompson followers.

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&lt;p&gt;Also, keep up the use of bringing up white supremists supporting Ron Paul. We’ve gotten a lot of traction from that in some other sites.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;I was simply pointing out a fact.  It's a fact that one of the websites dirrecting members to go and rigg online polls is a white supremist website.  If you don't like the fact that Ron Paul is the canidate of choice with neonazis, take it up with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I like how you compare Ron Paul to Hitler. </p>
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<p>I didn&#8217;t compare Ron Paul to Hitler.  Go back and actually read what I wrote.</p>
<blockquote><p>I’ll let them know over at <a href="http://www.fredthompsonforum.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fredthompsonforum.com</a> that you  have the best anti-paul blog on the Internet.</p>
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<p>That is a fake Fred Thompson website run by Ron Paul supporters.  This is exactly why people don&#8217;t take Ron Paul or his candidacy very seriously.  Ron Paul is a Libertarian pretending to be a Republican.  Ron Paul followers run a Fred Thompson website pretending to be Thompson followers.</p>
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<p>Also, keep up the use of bringing up white supremists supporting Ron Paul. We’ve gotten a lot of traction from that in some other sites.</p>
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<p>I was simply pointing out a fact.  It&#8217;s a fact that one of the websites dirrecting members to go and rigg online polls is a white supremist website.  If you don&#8217;t like the fact that Ron Paul is the canidate of choice with neonazis, take it up with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://bentcorner.com/2007/10/cnbc-explains-to-ron-paul-admirers-why-they-removed-poll/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why is it wrong for someone to post a link in a chat so people can go vote.  Why is it that people who admit how popular Ron Paul is on the internet think it is impossible that he win an internet poll ? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It's not &lt;i&gt;wrong&lt;/i&gt; per say, it just doesn't mean anything.  The point of the CNBC poll was to find out what their viewers thought of the debates.  What they noticed from incoming traffic that people voting on the poll were being directed the the various Ron Paul websites.

Did any of these people even watch the debates?
Were any of them CNBC viewers?

Because CNBC suspected that the results were being rigged they removed the poll.  IMHO, supporters of Ron Paul ought to get used to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why is it wrong for someone to post a link in a chat so people can go vote.  Why is it that people who admit how popular Ron Paul is on the internet think it is impossible that he win an internet poll ? </p>
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<p>It&#8217;s not <i>wrong</i> per say, it just doesn&#8217;t mean anything.  The point of the CNBC poll was to find out what their viewers thought of the debates.  What they noticed from incoming traffic that people voting on the poll were being directed the the various Ron Paul websites.</p>
<p>Did any of these people even watch the debates?<br />
Were any of them CNBC viewers?</p>
<p>Because CNBC suspected that the results were being rigged they removed the poll.  IMHO, supporters of Ron Paul ought to get used to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard in Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 03:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, what RetroFit said.

What is it about Ron Paul that renders some folks incapable of rational thought?

You'd think a reprieve from rampant governmental theft would be a good thing.

Say, you're not a social parasite sucking off the public teat, are you? What do you think you stand to lose from a Ron Paul presidency?

By the way, the Nazi were National socialists. Ron Paul and his fans are anything but.

Please do some more research. The truth is out there, just not at CNBC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, what RetroFit said.</p>
<p>What is it about Ron Paul that renders some folks incapable of rational thought?</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think a reprieve from rampant governmental theft would be a good thing.</p>
<p>Say, you&#8217;re not a social parasite sucking off the public teat, are you? What do you think you stand to lose from a Ron Paul presidency?</p>
<p>By the way, the Nazi were National socialists. Ron Paul and his fans are anything but.</p>
<p>Please do some more research. The truth is out there, just not at CNBC.</p>
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		<title>By: RetroFit</title>
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		<dc:creator>RetroFit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that the blogger feels so threatened by Dr. Paul?  You can feel the hatred and anger in the way he writes.  This blogger is a disturbed fellow.  He is, apparently, so accustomed to being sodomized by the powers that be, that he hasen't even noticed the loss of his Liberty's and his ability to think freely.  Or, perhaps he is just not bright enough to realize he is backing the wrong horse.  Ignorant with a stretched out rectum is no way to go through life son....Try to think before you type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that the blogger feels so threatened by Dr. Paul?  You can feel the hatred and anger in the way he writes.  This blogger is a disturbed fellow.  He is, apparently, so accustomed to being sodomized by the powers that be, that he hasen&#8217;t even noticed the loss of his Liberty&#8217;s and his ability to think freely.  Or, perhaps he is just not bright enough to realize he is backing the wrong horse.  Ignorant with a stretched out rectum is no way to go through life son&#8230;.Try to think before you type.</p>
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		<title>By: William D Berg</title>
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		<dc:creator>William D Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how you compare Ron Paul to Hitler. He is Hitler, following that stupid old piece of paper like it was Hitler's Myne Kempf.

Look at what happened to Hitler in the end...I admire you for bringing this to our attention.

I'll let them know over at http://www.fredthompsonforum.com that you  have the best anti-paul blog on the Internet.

Also, keep up the use of bringing up white supremists supporting Ron Paul. We've gotten a lot of traction from that in some other sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how you compare Ron Paul to Hitler. He is Hitler, following that stupid old piece of paper like it was Hitler&#8217;s Myne Kempf.</p>
<p>Look at what happened to Hitler in the end&#8230;I admire you for bringing this to our attention.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let them know over at <a href="http://www.fredthompsonforum.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.fredthompsonforum.com</a> that you  have the best anti-paul blog on the Internet.</p>
<p>Also, keep up the use of bringing up white supremists supporting Ron Paul. We&#8217;ve gotten a lot of traction from that in some other sites.</p>
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		<title>By: brainskins</title>
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		<dc:creator>brainskins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article is absurd. We all know that the polls can't be "hacked". There are ways to log IP's and synchronous traffic. If it were hacked they could prove it. The "traffic" the article talks about is perfectly fine. Why is it wrong for someone to post a link in a chat so people can go vote.  Why is it that people who admit how popular Ron Paul is on the internet think it is impossible that he win an internet poll ? He has raised more money in Q3 than McCain and he raised more than Romney ( had romney not been using his own money in his campaign fund) http://www.startribune.com/10215/story/1467461.html (romney)
Ron Paul is popular  - live with it !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is absurd. We all know that the polls can&#8217;t be &#8220;hacked&#8221;. There are ways to log IP&#8217;s and synchronous traffic. If it were hacked they could prove it. The &#8220;traffic&#8221; the article talks about is perfectly fine. Why is it wrong for someone to post a link in a chat so people can go vote.  Why is it that people who admit how popular Ron Paul is on the internet think it is impossible that he win an internet poll ? He has raised more money in Q3 than McCain and he raised more than Romney ( had romney not been using his own money in his campaign fund) <a href="http://www.startribune.com/10215/story/1467461.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.startribune.com/10215/story/1467461.html</a> (romney)<br />
Ron Paul is popular  - live with it !</p>
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